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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of varun
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 2:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Sip-implementors] Doubts about provisional responses

Hi,
I have got some basic questions about the provisional responses in SIP,
180 and 183 specifically.
1> In what cases should 180 be definitely be send as a
response.A 180 response can actually contain the SDP info.Assuming that
reliability PRACK for provisional responses is implemented, can a two
way audio session be established before the caller has got a 200 OK.
<sayan>
When you want say , the UAC to generate ringback locally , however , any
incoming media overrides the local ringback if it arrives from the far
end

yes it is possible to have a 2 way session, if you include SDP in
183/180
</sayan>

2>Also, 183 is basically used when the call goes
across different networks.Why can't simply 180 be used..
How are 180 and 183 different from each other? I mean if the dialog is
going to take long so you could have a provisional response which would
reset the timer for Invite response.

<sayan>
There is no hard and fast rule , that 183 will be used when in u
interwork with a different network , u may send a 180 if u determine
that u need to trigger local ring back at the originating end
</sayan>

3>coming to early media, once the caller has send an
invite it is ready to receive media( you can play announcements to the
caller), what has 183 got to do with early media?

<sayan>
if you include your SDP in 183 then the you can allow the UAC also to
send media , this is used in scenarios where you want to collect inputs
from the user through dtmf (example some auth code), before u allow the
call to be answered.

The offer/answer is often completed with the 18x responses even in
normal scenarios , because it helps in avoiding clipping due to race
between RTP packets and the 200 OK. From the UAS side the UAC might
receive voic packets(RTP) before it has received 200 OK , and hence the
UAC side may also start talking , however this will not reach the user
as the 200 OK from the UAS side with the SDP answer has not yet reached.


</sayan>



Some very basic doubts, would appreciate if somebody could spend a few
minutes to respond.

Regards
varun

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