I don't think that even Method 3 and 4 are OK because they will involve a
change in the origin line parameter of the SDP and that is not allowed as
per the RFC. 

BTW, what was the rationale behind not allowing the origin line to change?
It makes implementing apps like prepaid and CRBT very difficult. Could
someone please throw some light on this?

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Retesh Chadha
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 5:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Early media query

Hi Udit
Of all the methods you have specified, Method 1 and 2 are wrong as per
the RFC which states that the sdp of all the provisional and 2xx
response of INVITE should be same if they are present.

Both Method 3 and 4 look fine, with method 4 being better because in
that case 200 ok for INVITE is only sent when the final negotiation
(call media) is done.

Hope this helps.
-- 
With Regards
Retesh Chadha


On 10/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I want to made an application where we can use early media for playing
> initial in-band announcements, and then finally connecting the caller to
> actual callee (eg prepaid card application).
>
> I want to know which is the correct way to support this as per SIP RFC.
>
> Method 1:
>
>
>                 Caller                        Callee
>                   |                             |
>                   |                             |
>                   |(1) INVITE with offer        |
>                   |---------------------------->|
>                   |                             |
>                   |                             |
>                   |(2) 183 with answer 1        |
>                   |<----------------------------|
>                   |                             |
>                   |                             |
>                   |(3) 200 OK with SDP          |
>                   |<----------------------------|
>                   |                             |
>                   |                             |
>                   |(4) ACK                      |
>                   |---------------------------->|
>                   |                             |
>
>
> (2) contains SDP of announcement server
> (3) contains SDP of callee
>
>
> Method 2:
>
>                                        Caller Callee
>                   |                             |
>                   |                             |
>                   |(1) INVITE with offer        |
>                   |---------------------------->|
>                   |                             |
>                   |                             |
>                   |(2) 183 with answer 1        |
>                   |<----------------------------|
>                   |                             |
>                   |                             |
>                   |(3) PRACK                    |
>                   |---------------------------->|
>                   |                             |
>                   |                             |
>                   |(4) 200 PRACK                |
>                   |<----------------------------|
>                   |                             |
>                   |                             |
>                   |(5) 200 INVITE with sdp      |
>                   |<----------------------------|
>                   |                             |
>                   |                             |
>                   |(6) ACK                      |
>                   |---------------------------->|
>                   |                             |
>                   |                             |
>                   |                             |
>                   |                             |
>
> (2) contains SDP of announcement server
> (5) contains SDP of callee
>
>
> Method 3:
>
>        Caller                        Callee
>                   |                             |
>                   |                             |
>                   |(1) INVITE with offer        |
>                   |---------------------------->|
>                   |                             |
>                   |                             |
>                   |(2) 183 with answer 1        |
>                   |<----------------------------|
>                   |                             |
>                   |                             |
>                   |(3) PRACK                    |
>                   |---------------------------->|
>                   |                             |
>                   |                             |
>                   |(4) 200 PRACK                |
>                   |<----------------------------|
>                   |(5) 200 OK                   |
>                   |<----------------------------|
>                   |                             |
>                   |(6) ACK                      |
>                   |---------------------------->|
>                   |                             |
>                   |(7)Re-INVITE with SDP        |
>                   |<----------------------------|
>                   |                             |
>                   |                             |
>                   |(8) 200 OK with SDP          |
>                   |---------------------------->|
>                   |                             |
>                   |(9) ACK                      |
>                   |---------------------------->|
>
> (2) contains SDP of announcement server
> (5) contains no SDP
> (7) contains SDP of callee
> (8) contains answer of caller for callee offer
>
> Her, UDATE can also be used instead of Re-invites.
>
> Method 4:
>
>                                            Caller Callee
>                   |                             |
>                   |                             |
>                   |(1) INVITE with offer        |
>                   |---------------------------->|
>                   |                             |
>                   |                             |
>                   |(2) 183 with answer 1        |
>                   |<----------------------------|
>                   |                             |
>                   |                             |
>                   |(3) PRACK                    |
>                   |---------------------------->|
>                   |                             |
>                   |                             |
>                   |(4) 200 PRACK                |
>                   |<----------------------------|
>                   |(5) UPDATE (callee offer)    |
>                   |<----------------------------|
>                   |                             |
>                   |(6) 200 UPDATE (answer)      |
>                   |---------------------------->|
>                   |                             |
>                   |(7) 200 INVITE                   |
>                   |---------------------------->|
>                   |                             |
>                   |(8) ACK                      |
>                   |---------------------------->|
>
>
> In this case, when callee answers, UPDATE is sent to caller to negoitate
> audio with caller, and then 200 OK is sent for the initial INVITE.
>
> Regards,
> Udit
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