Hi Xi Tang,

 I mean for 200 case it will be like a general invite-200-ack
transaction.

And 200 will have the SDP.

As 580 is a special case I mentioned ..:-)



Regarding 24.229:

It means that if the UE that does not support this precondition
mechanism , it will ignore the precondition information.

If it supports the precondition mechanism than accordingly it will
respond to the message (200/580).



HTH

Sreeram.



________________________________

From: Tang Xi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:03 AM
To: Sreeram Kanumuri (WT01 - IP-Multimedia Carrier & Ent Networks)
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Query:How can UA ignore a precondition
offer?



Hi sreeram

Thanks for your replying. So do you mean 200 presponse should not have

SDP? But I think it is reasonable for 200 response or 18x reliable
response with SDP to still establish the session ignoring the
precondition information.



See  24.229v0611  5.1.4.1

"NOTE 3: If the terminating UE does not support the precondition
mechanism it will apply regular SIP session initiation procedures."



and 6.1.3

"NOTE 2: If the terminating UE does not support the precondition
mechanism it will ignore any precondition information received from the
originating UE"


On 10/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
wrote:


Hi Xi Tang,

When the preconditions are Mandatory and are not met by the answer: 580
should be send.
When the preconditions are optional and are not met by the answer: 200
will be send.

580 will have the SDP. with all the SDP payload as but for this

a=des:qos mandatory local sendrecv
It should be:
a=des:qos failure       local sendrecv  (failure should be added)
and port number in M should be set 0 for the a which is not met.

HTH,
Sreeram.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tang Xi
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 8:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Sip-implementors] Query:How can UA ignore a precondition
offer?

Hi,
1>in the first INVITE, UAC contain a SDP with precondition information
like
this:

   Surpported:100rel, precondition
    ...

    m=audio 777 RTP/AVP 1 2 3
    a=curr:qos local none
    a=curr:qos remote none
    a=des:qos mandatory local sendrecv
    a=des:qos none remote sendrecv
    ...

2>UAS receive the request,and UAS is able to send or receive the media
stream with all of the codec,
  but it does not support the precondition, how can it ignore the
precondition information?
  Should it do like this?

  Unsupported:precondition
   ...
   m=audio 777 RTP/AVP 1 2 3
   a=rtpmap: ....
   a=rtpmap: ....
   a=rtpmap: ....
   a=sendrecv


Would appreciate your response.

Thanks
Xi Tang
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