Practically, the Redirector could be also an AS which can use the 18x to
play some voice announcement (early media). I don't think anything wrong
with this behavior.

Jerry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Smith,
> Nathan
> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 6:49 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Sip-implementors] SIP Redirect Server: Returning 180
> Ringingbefore 302 Moved Temp
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Quick question on what the "correct" behaviour of a SIP redirect server
> is expected to be, in a Voice Telephony environment where the redirector
> is used solely to spread call load over a number of dedicated
> Application Servers:
>
> Initiating AS Redirector              Destination AS
>
> INVITE----------------->
> <-------------100 Trying
> <-------------180 Ringing *
> <-------------302 Moved Temp
> ACK-------------------->
> INVITE---------------------------------------->
> <------------------------------------100 Trying
> <------------------------------------180 Ringing
> <------------------------------------200 OK
> ACK------------------------------------------->
>
> Ideally, a SIP Redirect Server should only be implemented with a
> "limited Transaction User layer, which has access to a location
> service".  You would therefore expect that the server does not act on
> behalf of the end service (the destination AS has this responsibility),
> and is only responsible for responding with appropriate level of
> information about how to reach the end service (via 3xx) or any error
> handling (4xx).
>
> As such, I would expect that there should be no need to send further
> provisional 1xx responses after a 100 Trying - especially as a 180 is
> generally used to indicate that the eventual destination has been found,
> and is being alerted (which is not the case with a redirect server - as
> the 302 indicates that in fact the end service is still yet to be
> contacted).
>
> So I would then make the assertion that the 180 Ringing indicated by the
> (*) is in fact superfluous - and I would argue - that it is actually
> incorrect in a redirect server scenario to implement the stack in this
> way.  Any thoughts?
>
> Regards
>
> Nathan Smith
> Senior VoIP Specialist
> Enterprise Fixed & IP Calling
> Telstra Corporation Ltd
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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