Hi,
 
>>Fake forking is away to get around that, by using separate dialogs (To
>>tag values).
>>
>Why are we calling it "fake" forking? The UAC obviously can not tell
whether it is fake or not. The B2BUA black-box which 
>is doing this so called "fake" forking will anyway have to act as if
the INVITE was forked by a proxy to two UASs 
>(18X/tag=x and 2XX/tag=y) for all intents and purposes. 

You can call it whatever you wnat, but I think it's good to call it
something so that we know what we're talking about. Someone started to
use "fake", so...
         
>So, apart from the person who knows how the B2BUA is implemented,
nobody else knows that this is "fake" forking. Is there 
>any difference between fake and real forking from protocol perspective?


No.

Regards,

Christer
         





                > -----Original Message-----
                > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
                > Of Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
                > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:06 AM 
                > To: Ira Kadin; Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh); Miljanovic,
Nebojsa
                > (Neb); [email protected]
                > Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP in 2xx response
after reliable 18x 
                >
                >
                > Hi,
                >
                > >It can be the situation when the call originally is
                > connected to some
                > >media announcement server (connected - meaning
getting RTP,
                > for example
                > >to play ringback), than - to the final user. In that
case
                > the UAC has
                > >to switch from the media in 18x SDP to the media in
200 SDP
                >
                > It is not allowed, for the same dialog.
                > 
                > But, in your use-case you can use "fake forking" (see
separte
                > thread), and use different To tags in the 18x and 200.
Then
                > the 18x (tag=x) can be used for the announcement, and
200
                > (tag=y) be used for the UAS. 
                >
                > Regards,
                >
                > Christer
                >
                > > -----Original Message-----
                > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
                > Of Sanjay
                > > Sinha (sanjsinh)
                > > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 8:37 PM 
                > > To: Nebojsa Miljanovic;
[email protected]
                > > Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP in 2xx response
after
                > reliable 18x
                > > 
                > >
                > > Option 2 does not seem correct. Option 1 is correct
and you
                > may also
                > > want to ignore the sdp in 200 OK, just treat it as
if there
                > was no sdp
                > > in 200 OK.
                > >
                > > Sanjay
                > >
                > > >-----Original Message-----
                > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                > > >[mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf
                > > Of Nebojsa
                > > >Miljanovic
                > > >Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:30 PM 
                > > >To: [email protected]
                > > >Subject: [Sip-implementors] SDP in 2xx response
after reliable 18x
                > > >
                > > >Trying to get a feel on how various developers
interpret RFCs 3261, 
                > > >3262 and 3264.
                > > >
                > > >If you are acting as an UAC and you have received
SDP in
                > > reliable 18x
                > > >response (i.e. PRACK was used), and then again that
same SDP 
                > > comes in
                > > >2xx, what will you do?
                > > >
                > > >1. Verify that 18x and 2xx SDPs are the same and
accept it.
                > > >
                > > >2. Tear down the call since you consider SDP in 2xx
as an invalid 
                > > >Offer.
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >Also, do you know of any UAs that require 2xx to
contain SDP
                > > even after
                > > >Offer/Answer was done with 183/PRACK.
                > > >
                > > >Thanks.
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
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