In that case it seems more appropriate to send a 180, or am I way off  
base here?

-Daniel

On Mar 17, 2007, at 9:29 AM, KASTURI Narayanan ((kasnaray)) wrote:

> Hi ,
>
> You can treat this as an indication that the necessary info to  
> route the call is availanble and Call is proceeding "
> "Call Proceeding" or Progress message can be sent for H323 and for  
> SS7 "ACM or equivalent" message based on the national standards/ 
> specifications can be sent.
> The backward message does not have to necessarily mean a ring-back  
> tone always.
>
> Kasturi
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:sip- 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huseyin ALTUN
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 6:52 AM
> To: Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF); Bu, Wen Fei (Leo); Will Quan; sip- 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] 183 without SDP
>
> Hi,
>
> If  the call / request is started from an H.323 GW to an SBC and  
> SBC is doing IWF to SIP, what will be the message is being sent to  
> H.323 GW if SBC receives a 183 without SDP? (It is alerting) Or If  
> it is a MG and doing SIP-SS7, again what will happen? I think in  
> both scenario, calling party will hear a fake ring back tone (which  
> is played locally) and then will get the tone (whatever it is)  
> coming with SDP.
>
> If there is a way to give reliable information (announcement,  
> special ring back tone), fake information should not be provided to  
> calling party? Is this right?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Huseyin
>
>
>
> Huseyin Altun
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:sip- 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christer  
> Holmberg (JO/LMF)
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:43 AM
> To: Bu, Wen Fei (Leo); Will Quan; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] 183 without SDP
>
>
> Hi,
>
>> 183 should always take an SDP.
>> But the gateway could send a 180 first, then a 183 with SDP.
>
> I don't know what you mean by "should always take", but it is  
> allowed to send 183 without SDP (unless the offer/answer rules  
> requires SDP to be included).
>
> Regards,
>
> Christer
>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Will
>> Quan
>> Sent: 2007年3月15日 14:03
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [Sip-implementors] 183 without SDP
>>
>> Is it acceptable for a gateway to send a 183 without SDP and then one
>> second later send another with SDP?--will
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