U could use OPTIONS for keep alive (equivalent of PING).  

Regards
Ranjit

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[mailto:sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of
Sunil Bhagat
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To: 'Satyakumar'; shya...@huawei.com;
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Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] UPDATE method without any SDP

I meant using INFO as KeepAlive message... for refresh purpose... is
that not possible?

Regards,
Sunil

-----Original Message-----
From: Satyakumar [mailto:satyam_...@hyd.hellosoft.com]
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 12:27 PM
To: Sunil Bhagat; shya...@huawei.com;
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Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] UPDATE method without any SDP

from rfc 2796, sec 2 and sec 1 as below.

>From Sec 2
"The INFO method is not used to change the state of SIP calls, nor does
it change the state of sessions initiated by SIP. Rather, it provides
additional optional information which can further enhance the
application using SIP."

>From Sec 1
"The INFO method is not used to change the state of SIP calls, or the
parameters of the sessions SIP initiates. It merely sends optional
application layer information, generally related to the session."

Hence it is a general purpose, mid-session (Application) signalling
carrying

sip method, Not to change any sip session params.

Regards,
Satya



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From: "Sunil Bhagat" <subha...@cisco.com>
To: <shya...@huawei.com>; <sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu>
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] UPDATE method without any SDP


> Thanks.
>
> Please correct me if I am wrong, I guess INFO messages could also be
used
> for the same.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sunil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shyam [mailto:shya...@huawei.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 11:48 AM
> To: 'Sunil Bhagat'; sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] UPDATE method without any SDP
>
> Hi,
>
>    UPDATE without SDP has many use cases. Couple of them are
>
> 1) It acts as session refresh if session-refresh parameter are present
> 2) IF the caller or callee want to change the contact after the dialog
is
> established using UPDATE method you can change the same.
>
> Thanks,
> shyam
>
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> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 11:31 AM
> To: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> Subject: [Sip-implementors] UPDATE method without any SDP
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> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I have a small query regarding UPDATE method.
>
> UPDATE method is used to change the session parameters. I wanted to
know,
> what is the use of sending UPDATE without any sdp.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sunil
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