Hi

If the dialog is active, then there is no need of keep alive. OPTIONS method is 
used to know the status of a particular endpoint - similar to the ping utility. 
 


Regards
Ranjit

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From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu 
[mailto:sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Sumit 
Jindal
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 4:07 PM
To: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu
Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] UPDATE method without any SDP

If you want to use keep-alive thing for a INVITE dialog then there is a RFC for 
session refreshment procedure.

Regards,
Sumit Jindal

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Avasarala Ranjit-A20990 <ran...@motorola.com> 
wrote:
>
> U could use OPTIONS for keep alive (equivalent of PING).
>
>
> Regards
> Ranjit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> [mailto:sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of 
> Sunil Bhagat
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 2:02 PM
> To: 'Satyakumar'; shya...@huawei.com;
> sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] UPDATE method without any SDP
>
> I meant using INFO as KeepAlive message... for refresh purpose... is 
> that not possible?
>
> Regards,
> Sunil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Satyakumar [mailto:satyam_...@hyd.hellosoft.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 12:27 PM
> To: Sunil Bhagat; shya...@huawei.com;
> sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] UPDATE method without any SDP
>
> from rfc 2796, sec 2 and sec 1 as below.
>
> >From Sec 2
> "The INFO method is not used to change the state of SIP calls, nor 
> does it change the state of sessions initiated by SIP. Rather, it 
> provides additional optional information which can further enhance the 
> application using SIP."
>
> >From Sec 1
> "The INFO method is not used to change the state of SIP calls, or the 
> parameters of the sessions SIP initiates. It merely sends optional 
> application layer information, generally related to the session."
>
> Hence it is a general purpose, mid-session (Application) signalling 
> carrying
>
> sip method, Not to change any sip session params.
>
> Regards,
> Satya
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sunil Bhagat" <subha...@cisco.com>
> To: <shya...@huawei.com>; <sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu>
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 12:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] UPDATE method without any SDP
>
>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Please correct me if I am wrong, I guess INFO messages could also be
> used
>> for the same.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sunil
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: shyam [mailto:shya...@huawei.com]
>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 11:48 AM
>> To: 'Sunil Bhagat'; sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu
>> Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] UPDATE method without any SDP
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>    UPDATE without SDP has many use cases. Couple of them are
>>
>> 1) It acts as session refresh if session-refresh parameter are 
>> present
>> 2) IF the caller or callee want to change the contact after the 
>> dialog
> is
>> established using UPDATE method you can change the same.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> shyam
>>
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> Sunil
>> Bhagat
>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 11:31 AM
>> To: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu
>> Subject: [Sip-implementors] UPDATE method without any SDP
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a small query regarding UPDATE method.
>>
>> UPDATE method is used to change the session parameters. I wanted to
> know,
>> what is the use of sending UPDATE without any sdp.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sunil
>>
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