no it won't, as issue with codecs mismatch and not full/partial offer.
Either of them have to change their codec / PT mapping

Just curious,  does BYE have the reason for call termination?

Regards
Ranjit

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 11:13 PM Arun Tagare <arun.taga...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Will it solve if you send FULL offer when UE receive re-Invite w/o SDP
>
> pCSCF --------- VoLTE-phone
>
> INVITE ->
>
> With SDP offer
>
>              <- 180 Ringing
>
>              <- 200OK with SDP answer
>
> ACK ->
>
> re-INVITE ->
>
> without SDP
>
>              <- 200OK with SDP Offer  <<<<<< Here instead of sending
> negotiated offer try sending full offer
>
> ACK ->
>
> With SDP answer
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 7:12 PM Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB) <
> per-johan.sundb...@telenor.se> wrote:
>
> > Hi again !
> >
> > I just realized that I didn't answer your question
> >
> > "It looks like there is an attempt to match on PT 108 with AMR/8000. But
> > the codec parameters don't match. Is the expectation that they will be
> > matched by PT and then will attempt to interwork the differing codec
> > parameters?"
> >
> > I'm not sure, but I will  dig some more on the issue !
> >
> > BR/pj
> >
> >
> > Sensitivity: Internal
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Kyzivat <pkyzi...@alum.mit.edu>
> > Sent: den 22 januari 2021 23:44
> > To: Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB) <
> per-johan.sundb...@telenor.se>;
> > Ranjit Avasarala <ranjitka...@gmail.com>;
> > sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> > Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] reuse of payload type
> >
> > On 1/22/21 12:34 PM, Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB) wrote:
> > > Hi !
> > > My tool is exporting the trace as requested, but it seems the resulting
> > .pcap is not decoded so that one is not to any use.
> > > I have attached a HTML-version that I hope is at least a little better
> > than my text.
> >
> > That was fine.
> >
> > Now to analyze this trace...
> >
> > Note that IIUC the matching between offer and answer is done by codec
> name
> > (from rtpmap) and codec parameters (from fmtp. IIUC the individual
> > parameters in the fmtp need to be matched. The order that they are
> written
> > is irrelevant.)
> >
> > (Not by payload type, which can differ on the two ends, though people
> like
> > it better when it doesn't. But in this case it turns out that the PTs do
> > all match between a given offer and answer.)
> >
> > In the first O/A, there is a match between PT 108 on both ends (AMR/8000,
> >
> max-red=0;mode-change-capability=2;mode-change-neighbor=1;mode-change-period=2;mode-set=7).
> >
> > I imagine PT 116 in the answer is intended to match 116 in the offer.
> > But it technically doesn't because they don't have matching fmpt values.
> > I'm guessing it was treated as a match.
> >
> > In the 2nd O/A, treating it independently of the first one, there are
> > matches on 100, 102, 104, 105, 109.
> >
> > Then question you are asking is about the compatibility of Answer#2 and
> > Offer#1. The only match I find is for telephone-event between PT 116 in
> the
> > first answer and PT 100 in the second offer. I think that is what you
> were
> > concerned about. IMO *that* is conforming, since the phone uses
> > 116 in both its first answer and its subsequent offer.
> >
> > It looks like there is an attempt to match on PT 108 with AMR/8000. But
> > the codec parameters don't match. Is the expectation that they will be
> > matched by PT and then will attempt to interwork the differing codec
> > parameters? I don't think that is how it is supposed to work. But this
> > isn't really my area - I know the signaling but not the codec
> manipulation.
> >
> > I find the following violations where a UA uses a PT for different
> > codec/parameters between the first and 2nd Invites:
> >
> > pCSCF: 100, 102, 108
> > phone: 108
> >
> >         Thanks,
> >         Paul
> >
> >
> >
> > > [cid:image001.png@01D6F0ED.27F177E0]
> > >
> > > BR/pj
> > >
> > > From: Ranjit Avasarala <ranjitka...@gmail.com>
> > > Sent: den 22 januari 2021 18:02
> > > To: Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB)
> > > <per-johan.sundb...@telenor.se>
> > > Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] reuse of payload type
> > >
> > > Hi Sundhaum
> > >
> > > either A or B should change in order to make a successful call or make
> > use of codec conversion.  instead of pasting the call flows, it will be
> > better if u could attach the pcap file.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 10:02 AM Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige
> AB)
> > <per-johan.sundb...@telenor.se<mailto:per-johan.sundb...@telenor.se>>
> > wrote:
> > > Much appreciated, thanks !
> > >
> > > I have added some more info.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > pCSCF --------- VoLTE-phone
> > >
> > > INVITE ->
> > >
> > > With SDP offer
> > >
> > >               <- 180 Ringing
> > >
> > >               <- 200OK with SDP answer
> > >
> > > ACK ->
> > >
> > > re-INVITE ->
> > >
> > > without SDP
> > >
> > >               <- 200OK with SDP Offer
> > >
> > > ACK ->
> > >
> > > With SDP answer
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > SDP in initial INVITE
> > > SDP PDU
> > >           v=0
> > >           o=- 805658488335263 1704590316 IN IP6 2A02:1400:10:1C::4
> > >           s=-
> > >           c=IN IP6 2a02:1400:10:1::4
> > >           t=0 0
> > >           m=audio 5394 RTP/AVP 108 102 8 100 96 0 116 111
> > >           b=AS:141
> > >           a=rtpmap:108 AMR/8000
> > >           a=fmtp:108 mode-set=7; mode-change-period=2;
> > mode-change-capability=2; mode-change-neighbor=1; max-red=0
> > >           a=rtpmap:102 AMR/8000
> > >           a=fmtp:102 mode-set=7; max-red=0
> > >           a=rtpmap:8 PCMA/8000
> > >           a=rtpmap:100 AMR/8000
> > >           a=fmtp:100 mode-change-period=2; mode-change-capability=2;
> > mode-change-neighbor=1; max-red=0
> > >           a=rtpmap:96 AMR/8000
> > >           a=fmtp:96 max-red=0
> > >           a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000
> > >           a=rtpmap:116 telephone-event/8000
> > >           a=ptime:20
> > >           a=maxptime:20
> > >           a=rtpmap:111 telephone-event/16000
> > >
> > > SDP in 200OK from VoLTE-phone with SDP as answer on initial INVITE
> > >           o=sip:+46708xxx...@ims.mnc008.mcc240.3gppnetwork.org<mailto:
> > sip%3a%2b46708xxx...@ims.mnc008.mcc240.3gppnetwork.org> 1611316978 0 IN
> > IP6 2a02:1400:df:245d:435:1205:68e0:1ac3
> > >          s=-
> > >          c=IN IP6 2a02:1400:df:245d:435:1205:68e0:1ac3
> > >          t=0 0
> > >          a=sendrecv
> > >          m=audio 49120 RTP/AVP 108 116
> > >          b=AS:37
> > >          b=RS:462
> > >          b=RR:1387
> > >          a=rtpmap:108 AMR/8000
> > >          a=fmtp:108 mode-set=7; max-red=0; mode-change-capability=2;
> > mode-change-period=2; mode-change-neighbor=1
> > >          a=rtpmap:116 telephone-event/8000
> > >          a=fmtp:116 0-15
> > >          a=ptime:20
> > >          a=maxptime:20
> > >          a=sendrecv
> > >
> > >
> > > SDP in 200OK from VoLTE-phone with SDP offer as answer on INVITE
> without
> > SDP
> > >        SDP PDU
> > >           v=0
> > >           o=sip:+46708xxxx...@ims.mnc008.mcc240.3gppnetwork.org
> <mailto:
> > sip%3a%2b46708xxxx...@ims.mnc008.mcc240.3gppnetwork.org> 1611316978 1 IN
> > IP6 2a02:1400:df:245d:435:1205:68e0:1ac3
> > >           s=-
> > >           c=IN IP6 2a02:1400:df:245d:435:1205:68e0:1ac3
> > >           t=0 0
> > >           a=sendrecv
> > >           m=audio 49120 RTP/AVP 109 104 110 102 108 105 100
> > >           b=AS:50
> > >           b=RS:625
> > >           b=RR:1875
> > >           a=rtpmap:109 EVS/16000
> > >           a=fmtp:109 br=13.2-24.4; bw=nb-wb; max-red=0; cmr=-1;
> > ch-aw-recv=-1
> > >           a=rtpmap:104 AMR-WB/16000
> > >           a=fmtp:104 max-red=220; mode-change-capability=2
> > >           a=rtpmap:110 AMR-WB/16000
> > >           a=fmtp:110 octet-align=1; max-red=220;
> mode-change-capability=2
> > >           a=rtpmap:102 AMR/8000
> > >           a=fmtp:102 max-red=220; mode-change-capability=2
> > >           a=rtpmap:108 AMR/8000
> > >           a=fmtp:108 octet-align=1; max-red=220;
> mode-change-capability=2
> > >           a=rtpmap:105 telephone-event/16000
> > >           a=fmtp:105 0-15
> > >           a=rtpmap:100 telephone-event/8000
> > >           a=fmtp:100 0-15
> > >           a=ptime:20
> > >           a=maxptime:20
> > >           a=sendrecv
> > >
> > >
> > > ACK with SDP as answer on offer from VoLTE-phone
> > >
> > >        SDP PDU
> > >
> > >           v=0
> > >
> > >           o=- 805658488335263 1704590317 IN IP6 2A02:1400:10:1C::4
> > >
> > >           s=-
> > >
> > >           c=IN IP6 2a02:1400:10:1::4
> > >
> > >           t=0 0
> > >
> > >           m=audio 5394 RTP/AVP 104 105
> > >
> > >           b=AS:54
> > >
> > >           a=rtpmap:104 AMR-WB/16000
> > >
> > >           a=fmtp:104 mode-set=0,1,2; mode-change-period=2;
> > > mode-change-capability=2; mode-change-neighbor=1; max-red=0
> > >
> > >           a=rtpmap:105 telephone-event/16000
> > >
> > >           a=ptime:20
> > >
> > >           a=maxptime:40
> > >
> > > BR/pj
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Paul Kyzivat
> > > <pkyzi...@alum.mit.edu<mailto:pkyzi...@alum.mit.edu>>
> > > Sent: den 22 januari 2021 16:31
> > > To: Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB)
> > > <per-johan.sundb...@telenor.se<mailto:per-johan.sundb...@telenor.se>>;
> > > sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu<mailto:sip-implementors@lists.c
> > > s.columbia.edu>
> > > Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] reuse of payload type
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 1/22/21 7:55 AM, Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB) wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> As you can see the offer in initial INVITE have payload type 100:
> > >
> > >> a=rtpmap:100 AMR/8000 The offer in 200OK also have payload-type 100,
> > >
> > >> but now it is: a=rtpmap:100 telephone-event/8000
> > >
> > >>
> > >
> > >> I believe that this is causing failure when B-side (VoLTE-phone) is
> > >
> > >> sending TelephoneEvent(DTMF) to A-side (UAC)
> > >
> > >>
> > >
> > >> Do you think A-side should adapt or maybe reject the offer in 200OK or
> > do something else ?
> > >
> > >>
> > >
> > >>
> > >
> > >> RFC3264  8.3.2
> > >
> > >>      "However, in the case of RTP, the mapping from a particular
> > >> dynamic payload type
> > >
> > >>      number to a particular codec within that media stream MUST NOT
> > >> change
> > >
> > >>      for the duration of a session.  For example, if A generates an
> > >> offer
> > >
> > >>      with G.711 assigned to dynamic payload type number 46, payload
> > >> type
> > >
> > >>      number 46 MUST refer to G.711 from that point forward in any
> > >> offers
> > >
> > >>      or answers for that media stream within the session. "
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I compared the two SDPs and find that there aren't *any* codec+fmtp
> sets
> > that match. So this is messed up. But you haven't provided enough
> > information to fully decipher what is going on. We need to see the answer
> > to the first invite. The restrictions of rfc3264 section 8.3.2 pertain to
> > the PT values used by a particular endpoint. (It is permissible to use
> > different PTs on the two ends.) But in this case there isn't anything
> that
> > could be in that first answer that could render this second answer valid.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regarding whether the A-side should adapt or reject: this is an
> > implementation decision. The specs don't specify behavior for
> > non-conforming usage. Or course there is also the problem that you can't
> > reject an answer. All you can do is try sending another offer, or else
> > terminate the call.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It isn't entirely clear what you could try in order to carry on while
> > accepting this 2nd answer. You could start sending using one or more of
> the
> > codecs in the answer, but it is unclear what you would expect to receive.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >                               Thanks,
> > >
> > >                               Paul
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sensitivity: Internal
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