Hi !
Usually its's a normal release Reason: SIP;cause=200;text="User Triggered"
BR/pj

From: Ranjit Avasarala <ranjitka...@gmail.com>
Sent: den 5 februari 2021 16:49
To: Arun Tagare <arun.taga...@gmail.com>
Cc: Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB) <per-johan.sundb...@telenor.se>; 
sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu
Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] reuse of payload type

no it won't, as issue with codecs mismatch and not full/partial offer.  Either 
of them have to change their codec / PT mapping

Just curious,  does BYE have the reason for call termination?

Regards
Ranjit

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 11:13 PM Arun Tagare 
<arun.taga...@gmail.com<mailto:arun.taga...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi All,

Will it solve if you send FULL offer when UE receive re-Invite w/o SDP

pCSCF --------- VoLTE-phone

INVITE ->

With SDP offer

             <- 180 Ringing

             <- 200OK with SDP answer

ACK ->

re-INVITE ->

without SDP

             <- 200OK with SDP Offer  <<<<<< Here instead of sending
negotiated offer try sending full offer

ACK ->

With SDP answer





On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 7:12 PM Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB) <
per-johan.sundb...@telenor.se<mailto:per-johan.sundb...@telenor.se>> wrote:

> Hi again !
>
> I just realized that I didn't answer your question
>
> "It looks like there is an attempt to match on PT 108 with AMR/8000. But
> the codec parameters don't match. Is the expectation that they will be
> matched by PT and then will attempt to interwork the differing codec
> parameters?"
>
> I'm not sure, but I will  dig some more on the issue !
>
> BR/pj
>
>
> Sensitivity: Internal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Kyzivat <pkyzi...@alum.mit.edu<mailto:pkyzi...@alum.mit.edu>>
> Sent: den 22 januari 2021 23:44
> To: Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB) 
> <per-johan.sundb...@telenor.se<mailto:per-johan.sundb...@telenor.se>>;
> Ranjit Avasarala <ranjitka...@gmail.com<mailto:ranjitka...@gmail.com>>;
> sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu<mailto:sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] reuse of payload type
>
> On 1/22/21 12:34 PM, Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB) wrote:
> > Hi !
> > My tool is exporting the trace as requested, but it seems the resulting
> .pcap is not decoded so that one is not to any use.
> > I have attached a HTML-version that I hope is at least a little better
> than my text.
>
> That was fine.
>
> Now to analyze this trace...
>
> Note that IIUC the matching between offer and answer is done by codec name
> (from rtpmap) and codec parameters (from fmtp. IIUC the individual
> parameters in the fmtp need to be matched. The order that they are written
> is irrelevant.)
>
> (Not by payload type, which can differ on the two ends, though people like
> it better when it doesn't. But in this case it turns out that the PTs do
> all match between a given offer and answer.)
>
> In the first O/A, there is a match between PT 108 on both ends (AMR/8000,
> max-red=0;mode-change-capability=2;mode-change-neighbor=1;mode-change-period=2;mode-set=7).
>
> I imagine PT 116 in the answer is intended to match 116 in the offer.
> But it technically doesn't because they don't have matching fmpt values.
> I'm guessing it was treated as a match.
>
> In the 2nd O/A, treating it independently of the first one, there are
> matches on 100, 102, 104, 105, 109.
>
> Then question you are asking is about the compatibility of Answer#2 and
> Offer#1. The only match I find is for telephone-event between PT 116 in the
> first answer and PT 100 in the second offer. I think that is what you were
> concerned about. IMO *that* is conforming, since the phone uses
> 116 in both its first answer and its subsequent offer.
>
> It looks like there is an attempt to match on PT 108 with AMR/8000. But
> the codec parameters don't match. Is the expectation that they will be
> matched by PT and then will attempt to interwork the differing codec
> parameters? I don't think that is how it is supposed to work. But this
> isn't really my area - I know the signaling but not the codec manipulation.
>
> I find the following violations where a UA uses a PT for different
> codec/parameters between the first and 2nd Invites:
>
> pCSCF: 100, 102, 108
> phone: 108
>
>         Thanks,
>         Paul
>
>
>
> > [cid:image001.png@01D6F0ED.27F177E0]
> >
> > BR/pj
> >
> > From: Ranjit Avasarala <ranjitka...@gmail.com<mailto:ranjitka...@gmail.com>>
> > Sent: den 22 januari 2021 18:02
> > To: Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB)
> > <per-johan.sundb...@telenor.se<mailto:per-johan.sundb...@telenor.se>>
> > Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] reuse of payload type
> >
> > Hi Sundhaum
> >
> > either A or B should change in order to make a successful call or make
> use of codec conversion.  instead of pasting the call flows, it will be
> better if u could attach the pcap file.
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 10:02 AM Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB)
> <per-johan.sundb...@telenor.se<mailto:per-johan.sundb...@telenor.se><mailto:per-johan.sundb...@telenor.se<mailto:per-johan.sundb...@telenor.se>>>
> wrote:
> > Much appreciated, thanks !
> >
> > I have added some more info.
> >
> >
> >
> > pCSCF --------- VoLTE-phone
> >
> > INVITE ->
> >
> > With SDP offer
> >
> >               <- 180 Ringing
> >
> >               <- 200OK with SDP answer
> >
> > ACK ->
> >
> > re-INVITE ->
> >
> > without SDP
> >
> >               <- 200OK with SDP Offer
> >
> > ACK ->
> >
> > With SDP answer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > SDP in initial INVITE
> > SDP PDU
> >           v=0
> >           o=- 805658488335263 1704590316 IN IP6 2A02:1400:10:1C::4
> >           s=-
> >           c=IN IP6 2a02:1400:10:1::4
> >           t=0 0
> >           m=audio 5394 RTP/AVP 108 102 8 100 96 0 116 111
> >           b=AS:141
> >           a=rtpmap:108 AMR/8000
> >           a=fmtp:108 mode-set=7; mode-change-period=2;
> mode-change-capability=2; mode-change-neighbor=1; max-red=0
> >           a=rtpmap:102 AMR/8000
> >           a=fmtp:102 mode-set=7; max-red=0
> >           a=rtpmap:8 PCMA/8000
> >           a=rtpmap:100 AMR/8000
> >           a=fmtp:100 mode-change-period=2; mode-change-capability=2;
> mode-change-neighbor=1; max-red=0
> >           a=rtpmap:96 AMR/8000
> >           a=fmtp:96 max-red=0
> >           a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000
> >           a=rtpmap:116 telephone-event/8000
> >           a=ptime:20
> >           a=maxptime:20
> >           a=rtpmap:111 telephone-event/16000
> >
> > SDP in 200OK from VoLTE-phone with SDP as answer on initial INVITE
> >           
> > o=sip:+46708xxx...@ims.mnc008.mcc240.3gppnetwork.org<mailto:sip%3a%2b46708xxx...@ims.mnc008.mcc240.3gppnetwork.org><mailto:
<mailto:%0b>> 
sip%3a%2b46708xxx...@ims.mnc008.mcc240.3gppnetwork.org<mailto:sip%253a%252b46708xxx...@ims.mnc008.mcc240.3gppnetwork.org>>
 1611316978 0 IN
> IP6 2a02:1400:df:245d:435:1205:68e0:1ac3
> >          s=-
> >          c=IN IP6 2a02:1400:df:245d:435:1205:68e0:1ac3
> >          t=0 0
> >          a=sendrecv
> >          m=audio 49120 RTP/AVP 108 116
> >          b=AS:37
> >          b=RS:462
> >          b=RR:1387
> >          a=rtpmap:108 AMR/8000
> >          a=fmtp:108 mode-set=7; max-red=0; mode-change-capability=2;
> mode-change-period=2; mode-change-neighbor=1
> >          a=rtpmap:116 telephone-event/8000
> >          a=fmtp:116 0-15
> >          a=ptime:20
> >          a=maxptime:20
> >          a=sendrecv
> >
> >
> > SDP in 200OK from VoLTE-phone with SDP offer as answer on INVITE without
> SDP
> >        SDP PDU
> >           v=0
> >           
> > o=sip:+46708xxxx...@ims.mnc008.mcc240.3gppnetwork.org<mailto:sip%3a%2b46708xxxx...@ims.mnc008.mcc240.3gppnetwork.org><mailto:
<mailto:%0b>> 
sip%3a%2b46708xxxx...@ims.mnc008.mcc240.3gppnetwork.org<mailto:sip%253a%252b46708xxxx...@ims.mnc008.mcc240.3gppnetwork.org>>
 1611316978 1 IN
> IP6 2a02:1400:df:245d:435:1205:68e0:1ac3
> >           s=-
> >           c=IN IP6 2a02:1400:df:245d:435:1205:68e0:1ac3
> >           t=0 0
> >           a=sendrecv
> >           m=audio 49120 RTP/AVP 109 104 110 102 108 105 100
> >           b=AS:50
> >           b=RS:625
> >           b=RR:1875
> >           a=rtpmap:109 EVS/16000
> >           a=fmtp:109 br=13.2-24.4; bw=nb-wb; max-red=0; cmr=-1;
> ch-aw-recv=-1
> >           a=rtpmap:104 AMR-WB/16000
> >           a=fmtp:104 max-red=220; mode-change-capability=2
> >           a=rtpmap:110 AMR-WB/16000
> >           a=fmtp:110 octet-align=1; max-red=220; mode-change-capability=2
> >           a=rtpmap:102 AMR/8000
> >           a=fmtp:102 max-red=220; mode-change-capability=2
> >           a=rtpmap:108 AMR/8000
> >           a=fmtp:108 octet-align=1; max-red=220; mode-change-capability=2
> >           a=rtpmap:105 telephone-event/16000
> >           a=fmtp:105 0-15
> >           a=rtpmap:100 telephone-event/8000
> >           a=fmtp:100 0-15
> >           a=ptime:20
> >           a=maxptime:20
> >           a=sendrecv
> >
> >
> > ACK with SDP as answer on offer from VoLTE-phone
> >
> >        SDP PDU
> >
> >           v=0
> >
> >           o=- 805658488335263 1704590317 IN IP6 2A02:1400:10:1C::4
> >
> >           s=-
> >
> >           c=IN IP6 2a02:1400:10:1::4
> >
> >           t=0 0
> >
> >           m=audio 5394 RTP/AVP 104 105
> >
> >           b=AS:54
> >
> >           a=rtpmap:104 AMR-WB/16000
> >
> >           a=fmtp:104 mode-set=0,1,2; mode-change-period=2;
> > mode-change-capability=2; mode-change-neighbor=1; max-red=0
> >
> >           a=rtpmap:105 telephone-event/16000
> >
> >           a=ptime:20
> >
> >           a=maxptime:40
> >
> > BR/pj
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Kyzivat
> > <pkyzi...@alum.mit.edu<mailto:pkyzi...@alum.mit.edu><mailto:pkyzi...@alum.mit.edu<mailto:pkyzi...@alum.mit.edu>>>
> > Sent: den 22 januari 2021 16:31
> > To: Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB)
> > <per-johan.sundb...@telenor.se<mailto:per-johan.sundb...@telenor.se><mailto:per-johan.sundb...@telenor.se<mailto:per-johan.sundb...@telenor.se>>>;
> > sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu<mailto:sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu><mailto:sip-implementors@lists.c<mailto:sip-implementors@lists.c>
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> > Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] reuse of payload type
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/22/21 7:55 AM, Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB) wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> >
> >
> >> As you can see the offer in initial INVITE have payload type 100:
> >
> >> a=rtpmap:100 AMR/8000 The offer in 200OK also have payload-type 100,
> >
> >> but now it is: a=rtpmap:100 telephone-event/8000
> >
> >>
> >
> >> I believe that this is causing failure when B-side (VoLTE-phone) is
> >
> >> sending TelephoneEvent(DTMF) to A-side (UAC)
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Do you think A-side should adapt or maybe reject the offer in 200OK or
> do something else ?
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >> RFC3264  8.3.2
> >
> >>      "However, in the case of RTP, the mapping from a particular
> >> dynamic payload type
> >
> >>      number to a particular codec within that media stream MUST NOT
> >> change
> >
> >>      for the duration of a session.  For example, if A generates an
> >> offer
> >
> >>      with G.711 assigned to dynamic payload type number 46, payload
> >> type
> >
> >>      number 46 MUST refer to G.711 from that point forward in any
> >> offers
> >
> >>      or answers for that media stream within the session. "
> >
> >
> >
> > I compared the two SDPs and find that there aren't *any* codec+fmtp sets
> that match. So this is messed up. But you haven't provided enough
> information to fully decipher what is going on. We need to see the answer
> to the first invite. The restrictions of rfc3264 section 8.3.2 pertain to
> the PT values used by a particular endpoint. (It is permissible to use
> different PTs on the two ends.) But in this case there isn't anything that
> could be in that first answer that could render this second answer valid.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regarding whether the A-side should adapt or reject: this is an
> implementation decision. The specs don't specify behavior for
> non-conforming usage. Or course there is also the problem that you can't
> reject an answer. All you can do is try sending another offer, or else
> terminate the call.
> >
> >
> >
> > It isn't entirely clear what you could try in order to carry on while
> accepting this 2nd answer. You could start sending using one or more of the
> codecs in the answer, but it is unclear what you would expect to receive.
> >
> >
> >
> >                               Thanks,
> >
> >                               Paul
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sensitivity: Internal
> > _______________________________________________
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