I think the recv/send/sendrecv approach that Christer was proposing
addresses this. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hadriel Kaplan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 07:40
> To: Dean Willis; Paul Kyzivat
> Cc: sip; Audet, Francois (SC100:3055); Stucker, Brian 
> (RICH1:AR00); Christer Holmberg
> Subject: RE: [Sip] INFO
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dean Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:05 PM
> > To: Paul Kyzivat
> > Cc: sip; Francois Audet; Brian Stucker; Christer Holmberg
> > Subject: Re: [Sip] INFO
> >
> >
> > On Oct 16, 2007, at 6:08 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
> >
> > > The "bundled subscriptions" need to be negotiated in both 
> > > directions. That means something like:
> > >
> > > INVITE must contain:
> > > - these are the events I am willing to send
> > > - these are the events I desire to receive
> >
> > Do we need that first line ? Or do we just need "These are 
> the events 
> > I'm willing to receive. If I get them, great. If I don't, well, I 
> > don't care, I'll assume that sending them wasn't important to you."
> 
> But that's not always the case with dtmf.  If a softphone 
> makes a call, would the softphone always care to receive 
> DTMF?  Not all of them would.  But they would want to tell 
> the far-end they can _send_ DTMF.  Not that I think this 
> means we need a send/receive distinction - I think just a "I 
> support dtmf-info" semantic is good enough for dtmf.
> 
> 
> > Is there a use case for turning this into a full 
> bidirectional offer- 
> > answer?
> 
> I guess the question is if it matters that a UA which can 
> only send event foo but can't do anything useful receiving 
> foo, could be sent foo anyway.  For example, suppose we 
> created an event-package for a jpeg picture, for remote-party 
> call display.  If a hard-phone has no LCD to display a 
> picture, but has a stored jpeg to give to the far-end, would 
> it matter if it can't say "I can send a jpeg but don't want 
> to receive one"?  Obviously it could just accept a received 
> one (ie, 200 ok the INFO) and discard the jpeg.  But is that 
> the right thing to do?  I dunno.  We could just leave the 
> concept up to specific info-event-package definitions to 
> handle - i.e., make an event-package define send vs. receive 
> event-packages pairs if it cares about it.
> 
> -hadriel
> 


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