Yes, but Dean is asking if we even need the concept of a recv/send/sendrecv.  
You would need to specify recv/send/sendrecv for each info-event-package.
The question is: is it necessary for a general info-event-package negotiation 
mechanism?

-hadriel

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francois Audet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 11:18 AM
> To: Hadriel Kaplan; Dean Willis; Paul Kyzivat
> Cc: sip; Brian Stucker; Christer Holmberg
> Subject: RE: [Sip] INFO
>
> I think the recv/send/sendrecv approach that Christer was proposing
> addresses this.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hadriel Kaplan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 07:40
> > To: Dean Willis; Paul Kyzivat
> > Cc: sip; Audet, Francois (SC100:3055); Stucker, Brian
> > (RICH1:AR00); Christer Holmberg
> > Subject: RE: [Sip] INFO
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dean Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:05 PM
> > > To: Paul Kyzivat
> > > Cc: sip; Francois Audet; Brian Stucker; Christer Holmberg
> > > Subject: Re: [Sip] INFO
> > >
> > >
> > > On Oct 16, 2007, at 6:08 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
> > >
> > > > The "bundled subscriptions" need to be negotiated in both
> > > > directions. That means something like:
> > > >
> > > > INVITE must contain:
> > > > - these are the events I am willing to send
> > > > - these are the events I desire to receive
> > >
> > > Do we need that first line ? Or do we just need "These are
> > the events
> > > I'm willing to receive. If I get them, great. If I don't, well, I
> > > don't care, I'll assume that sending them wasn't important to you."
> >
> > But that's not always the case with dtmf.  If a softphone
> > makes a call, would the softphone always care to receive
> > DTMF?  Not all of them would.  But they would want to tell
> > the far-end they can _send_ DTMF.  Not that I think this
> > means we need a send/receive distinction - I think just a "I
> > support dtmf-info" semantic is good enough for dtmf.
> >
> >
> > > Is there a use case for turning this into a full
> > bidirectional offer-
> > > answer?
> >
> > I guess the question is if it matters that a UA which can
> > only send event foo but can't do anything useful receiving
> > foo, could be sent foo anyway.  For example, suppose we
> > created an event-package for a jpeg picture, for remote-party
> > call display.  If a hard-phone has no LCD to display a
> > picture, but has a stored jpeg to give to the far-end, would
> > it matter if it can't say "I can send a jpeg but don't want
> > to receive one"?  Obviously it could just accept a received
> > one (ie, 200 ok the INFO) and discard the jpeg.  But is that
> > the right thing to do?  I dunno.  We could just leave the
> > concept up to specific info-event-package definitions to
> > handle - i.e., make an event-package define send vs. receive
> > event-packages pairs if it cares about it.
> >
> > -hadriel
> >


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