Hi Jonathan, Chapter 2 of the draft says: "All TOTE implementations support at least the lite versionof Interactive Connectivity Establishment (ICE) for TCP [I-D.ietf-mmusic-ice-tcp]." Now, as far as I know we haven't specified any ICE lite procedures for TCP. ice-tcp-05 (do I read the wrong version?) also says: "Because this specification requires multiple candidates for a media stream, it is not compatible with ICE's lite implementation, and can only be used by full implementations." Now, different alternatives regarding this were discussed in Vancouver, and one of the proposals discussed was to implementing "TCP ICE lite" simply by removing the candidates, use the RFC 4145 "fallback" - and specify that ICE could still be used for UDP based streams. As you said, though, I guess the detailed discussion of the proposal belongs to MMUSIC... Regards, Christer
________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jonathan Rosenberg Sent: Sat 16/02/2008 01:54 To: IETF SIP List Subject: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media path I just submitted a new I-D, which proposes a protocol called TOTE: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rosenberg-sip-tote-00.txt Basically, TOTE provides the ability to exchange MIME objects of any type and "purpose" over a tcp/tls connection established e2e through SDP O/A procedures and ICE-tcp. This ties into the INFO disussion; it provides the media-plane equivalent of the INFO-events framework. This draft should arguably go in mmusic but since the INFO debate is happening here I submitted it as a -sip. Thanks, Jonathan R. -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. 499 Thornall St. Cisco Fellow Edison, NJ 08837 Cisco, Voice Technology Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jdrosen.net <http://www.jdrosen.net/> PHONE: (408) 902-3084 http://www.cisco.com <http://www.cisco.com/> _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for questions on current sip Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for new developments on the application of sip _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for questions on current sip Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for new developments on the application of sip
