> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Kyzivat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> There is a difficult line to walk here:

Yes, very.

> On one hand the GW operator doesn't want to be held liable for asserting
> an address it can't verify.
> OTOH the UAS (should) want *some* assurance of the identity of the
> caller before displaying it as caller id.

But I think that's the rub - people are pointing out that a PSTN Gateway 
doesn't have that assurance of the CLID it got to begin with.  Garbage in = 
garbage out.  I don't disagree there is a pragmatic middle-ground though. (the 
reality is the CLID's correct 99%+ of the time)
I'm just trying to figure out how in SIP it wouldn't quickly be worthless.


> If the UAS won't display without a trusted signature, and the GWs won't
> provide a signature for anything from the PSTN, then sip phones won't
> ever get callerid for calls from the PSTN.

Sure, but it's the first antecedent I don't think holds: it just needs to 
display it differently, like with a "?" at the end or some such.  I know, I'm 
dreaming. :)  This problem sucketh.

-hadriel
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