> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elwell, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> [JRE] That might be so, but in the Request-URI it seems to be much more
> of a concern. Can anyone shed any light on what SBCs might do if a
> Request URI contains both user=phone and gr=xxxx parameters? Hadriel?

That's unknowable.  There are over a dozen SBC vendors, according to the 
analysts, possibly as many as 30 depending on your definition, though many of 
them are only seen in specific markets or regions.  Even if you could ask all 
of them, they wouldn't be able to answer, because it's basically highly 
configurable. (and my guess is it is on other SIP devices too)

I know we've had a problem with it in one case where we weren't trying to 
prevent it from working, but in talking with some people in IETF-Philly I'm 
still not sure if it was specific to our config in that case, or just a problem 
gruu would have even with legacy true-3261 networks in general. (my guess is 
it's specific to SBCs, or really any b2bua, because most b2bua's replace the 
Contact URI, and gruu is subsequently broken... and there are a LOT more 
b2bua's than just SBCs)

In general though, Paul wasn't far off on the bogey-man - the whole idea of an 
SBC is to give total control to the owner of the SBC, imo.  (I just happen to 
think that's ok)  For example my company's SBC doesn't modify the req-uri 
unless it's set to, which of course most everyone does the instant they install 
it.

In my personal opinion this type of stuff can be changed by vendors or their 
customers through configs, and will be if it provides value, so long as it 
doesn't conflict with their other goals.  That's why I wrote the 
draft-kaplan-sip-uris-change draft.  All providers want calls to work, imho.

-hadriel

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