> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Kyzivat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> As I've said elsewhere it doesn't upset me to have pstn routing used as
> a fallback. But the common behavior we've been discussing has never
> stated the sip routing will be preferentially tried.

Ah.  Well, in my world it's not a black-white thing.  I always like to think 
sip end-end is preferential, but there are cases due to least-cost-routing or 
regulatory requirements that the PSTN is used when there was a sip path.  But 
anyway, if you think it's ok to use PSTN as a fallback for a sip: request, then 
I'm not sure what the problem is?  I mean that effectively weakens the scheme 
to be basically what we have now, no?


> Well, with the semantics we are trying to sort out, it would be entirely
> appropriate for the GW to use a tel uri for To-, From-, and R-URIs.
> Since the incoming call is from the PSTN it has no data to suggest that
> the caller can be reached any other way. I suppose it could use a sip
> URI identifying itself, if it *wants* to take responsibility for any
> return calls, but that is an unlikely scenario.

Totally, but it's not what they're doing. (some are good about this, some 
ain't)  And Dean is currently proposing a GW uses a sip: From URI, with a 
user=phone, so it can be signed.  But that is another of the many issue 
threads. :)


> I'm proposing what I think is a more sensible and functional arrangement
> if everybody followed it. Obviously everybody doesn't follow it now, we
> need to figure out if there is a feasible migration path. But its not
> like everything that should work does work today (or we wouldn't be
> having this conversation), so there is need to figure stuff out in any
> case.

I'm trying to remember how we got on this topic, because things are working 
fine with-respect-to sip as a default scheme, afaik.  I think it's 
architecturally ugly, and will cause us grief later, but I can't seem to recall 
what current "problem" drove this particular topic.(?)

-hadriel
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