> -----Original Message-----
> From: Juha Heinanen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:33 PM
> To: Hadriel Kaplan
> Cc: Francois Audet; [email protected]; Christer Holmberg
> Subject: RE: [Sip] Draft: draft-holmberg-sip-keep-00.txt
>
> Hadriel Kaplan writes:
>
>  > Actually, it will cause problems for the device sending STUN, because
>  > that next-hop proxy will (rightly) consider it a malformed attack and
>  > blacklist the sender.
>
> if proxy supports stun, it can recognize that the request is a stun
> requests and not an attack.

Right, but the whole thing here is the UA doesn't know if the proxy supports 
STUN/CRLF, or is legacy.  If the UA does draft-outbound and so does the proxy, 
it can find out; if it does draft-sip-keep, it can find out.  If the UA finds 
out the proxy can't do it, then it will not do it.


>  > But it's also because by letting the next-hop proxy know the sender
>  > can send STUN or CRLF keepalives means the next-hop proxy does not
>  > need to potentially do other things itself.
>
> that does make sense, but then the ua needs to let the proxy know,
> exactly which keepalive method(s) it supports and the proxy should be
> able to respond, which one it wants to receive if there is more than one
> that the us is advertising.

I think Christer's current proposal is to re-use exactly what outbound does, 
which I thought was basically one and only one mechanism per transport type, of 
message-based/UDP=STUN, stream-based=CRLFCRLF.  If so, then there is no choice 
to make. (which is good, imo)

-hadriel

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