Dan,

Thanks for writing this, which I believe is an important part of the
whole SIP Identity discussion going on at present. Even if (as is
likely) the IETF does not standardise such a visual indicator, the IETF
should still give consideration to what sort of indicators are needed
and ensure that its protocols are able to supply sufficient information
for a UA to be able to select the appropriate indicator.

The only other comment I have is that I didn't see anything about the
impact of PSTN interworking. So there would seem to be at least 3
elements that make up the security status of a call:
- the strength of authentication of the peer user or domain;
- the strength of encryption;
- whether the call is via PSTN.

John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Dan York
> Sent: 08 July 2008 00:46
> To: IETF SIP List
> Subject: [Sip] On the need for a visual identifier of trusted 
> identity - Fwd: I-D 
> Action:draft-york-sip-visual-identifier-trusted-identity-00.txt
> 
> So after writing my response to Paul Kyzivat's response to Cullen, I  
> thought about it some more and realized that I ought to 
> collect those  
> thoughts into an I-D, which I have now submitted.  I did so 
> primarily  
> because I haven't really seen discussion of the end user's  
> *experience* of working with "trusted identity" (if I missed such a  
> discussion, please feel free to point it out to me).  To the person  
> using a SIP phone to call another SIP phone, how do they know that  
> they can trust the identity of the caller on the other end?    If we  
> solve the various issues we are discussing related to RFC 
> 4474, P-A-I,  
> etc., what might the end user experience look like?
> 
> As I note in the draft, it's not entirely clear to me that 
> the IETF is  
> the appropriate body to address this question.  It's more of a "user  
> interface" question that is more about how to have users 
> adopt/accept  
> a SIP feature and feels to me like it's something more 
> appropriate for  
> a more vendor-centric "industry consortium" type of entity.  
> Something  
> like the SIP Forum or some other similar entity.  I'm certainly open  
> to comments and feedback along those lines... In the meantime, I  
> thought I'd at least throw something out there for discussion.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dan
> 
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts  
> directories.
> 
>       Title           : The Importance of a Visual Identifier 
> of Trusted  
> Identity
>       Author(s)       : D. York
>       Filename        : draft-york-sip-visual-identifier-trusted- 
> identity-00.txt
>       Pages           : 9
>       Date            : 2008-07-07
> 
> This document discusses the need for a visual identifier in Session
> Initiation Protocol (SIP) endpoints to indicate to the end user that
> they are speaking with someone whose identity is trusted.
> 
> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-york-sip-visual-iden
tifier-trusted-identity-00.txt
> 
> -- 
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