Dan York wrote:
So after writing my response to Paul Kyzivat's response to Cullen, I thought about it some more and realized that I ought to collect those thoughts into an I-D, which I have now submitted. I did so primarily because I haven't really seen discussion of the end user's *experience* of working with "trusted identity" (if I missed such a discussion, please feel free to point it out to me).

And I wrote:
Dan: A while ago -- maybe early last year -- we had a great
big thread on the idea of showing a locked padlock to impart
the notion of a secure call. [...]
I will attempt to find the threaded discussion in the mailing
list archives and send you a link to it tomorrow.

So I went back and trawled through the saved emails and archived
emails to see when we had this discussion.  It was between
May 2006 - Jun 2006 -- 2 years ago.

On Jun 19, 2006 we had distilled the hopping bunny thread
discussions into the sipsec I-D (see
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip/current/msg14799.html).
In the archives, keep going back to May 2006 and you will
see a long thread that has been re-named many times.  The
source of that renamed thread is an email by Francois Audet when
he was doing the work on sip-sips that started the thread (see
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip/current/msg14306.html
for the beginning of Francois' email and then track forward to
Jun 2006 following the thread as it is renamed multiple times.)

From May 2006 to June 2006, if you follow Francois' thread
and all its renamed derivatives, you will get a good idea of
all the discussion that has gone into the topic of user-
visualizable lock icon a la HTTP and the various issues around
it.

The work culminated in the Jul 2006 IETF meeting in a
SIP Security Breakout session where the issue was framed by
Cullen and is captured in the minutes (search for the text
"hopping bunny" in this URL:
http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/06jul/minutes/sip.html)

That I believe is the last word on this topic until now.

Hope that helps.

Ciao.

- vijay
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