Maybe new drafts should have an SBC behavior section which should call
out how the SBC should handle messages, similar to existing RFCs/drafts
which call out how UAC & UAS should handle messages.


Sanjay

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>Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 3:42 PM
>To: Paul Kyzivat (pkyzivat)
>Cc: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Sip] SUBSCRIBE and From
>
>On 7/11/08 6:49 AM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
>> But after listening to all of these problems, I wonder if it 
>might be 
>> necessary to expect SBCs to do *something* that they might not 
>> currently do. And just recognize that this won't work until the SBCs 
>> are updated. In the end we can't work around all the damage 
>SBCs do - 
>> they have some responsibility.
>
>Paul is 100% correct -- if we limit any future protocol 
>extensions to what will work through unmodified SBCs as they 
>exist today, then we don't need to meet in Dublin. We're done. 
>Shut the working group down and send everyone home. Dean and 
>Keith, please be sure to turn the lights off on the way out.
>
>Let's not the SBC tail wag the SIP dog to death.
>
>/a
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