I think I only have 2 physical fax machines left. They are for the 
really old school people who can't grasp scanning and then sending out 
via fax server. The rest of the connections are dial up EDI interfaces 
to insurance companies, postage machines, and other things that are 
using modem technology. I guess I'm really out of luck. I will probably 
leave my fax server on PRI if I have to keep a PRI around anyway. This 
is definitely ignorance on my part. I knew the options were there to put 
analog devices on a SIP setup. I didn't even think to make sure modems 
were an option.

Picher, Michael wrote:
> Fax (t.38) is a bit different in that there is a widely accepted
> protocol to handle it.  That being said, I usually go analog lines from
> a provider for fax lines.  Maybe I'm old fashioned.
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mkitchin.pub...@gmail.com [mailto:mkitchin.pub...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:12 AM
> To: Picher, Michael; sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Fax machines, postage machines,and a few other
> analog devices
>
> If I'm going to have trouble with modems, I guess I should assume I'm 
> going to have problems with fax machines and such as well? I really made
>
> a bad assumption on this one I guessed. So you thing I would have 
> trouble with any analog device that is transmitting data? Does anyone 
> have any good experience with a setup that doesn't require a PRI or POTS
>
> lines. I guess I'm trying to do the impossible here.
>
>
> Picher, Michael wrote:
>   
>> I really think you are going to have trouble with the Modem stuff...
>>
>> For your best bet you'll want analog gateways and pri gateway from
>>     
> same
>   
>> vendor.  They'll need to support Modem over IP (MoIP...  v.150).
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org
>> [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of
>> mkitchin.pub...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 1:36 PM
>> To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>> Subject: [sipx-users] Fax machines, postage machines,and a few other
>> analog devices
>>
>> I think I understand most of the concepts in play here, but I'm hoping
>>     
>
>   
>> someone can recommend some specific devices, designs, ideas, best 
>> practices etc.
>> We are planning on moving from a 2 PRI based Nortel Norstar to Sipx 
>> 4.0.2. It is VOIP provided directly from Verizon over a Verizon DS3.
>>
>> 1) We have a handful of old analog devices (fax machines, copiers that
>>     
>
>   
>> phone home for billing, postage machines, etc). I would love to get
>>     
> rid 
>   
>> of all these, but old habits die hard for some people.
>> 2) I also have a separate PRI that goes it an Atlas Adtran 550 PRI 
>> router, that routes calls to a Rightfax fax server via internal PRI 
>> connection and a Perle systems modem bank over 4 internal ISDN 
>> connections. I would like to get rid of this PRI all together.
>>
>> For the first part, I'm hoping to find the ideal device (ATA, Gateway,
>>     
>
>   
>> or whatever I need) to plug 5 to 10 of these analog devices in. I'm 
>> interested in one that can connect multiple devices that we would put
>>     
> in
>   
>> our data center, and one that would connect just a single device if we
>>     
>
>   
>> had to locate next to the analog device for some reason. Hopefully 
>> someone has had some positive experiences with some of these setups.
>>
>> For #2, I think I have a few options. I believe I could put something
>>     
> in
>   
>> to route an internal PRI connection to the Atlas 550. I don't want to 
>> add any hardware cards to my Sipx machine, because I'm hoping to to
>>     
> put 
>   
>> it on VMware one day if the issues there get worked out. I can make 
>> Rightfax Sip compatible for about a $3000 upgrade, and I could sell
>>     
> the 
>   
>> current PRI card in it for about the same. That is what I'm leaning 
>> towards. Would it be simple to route a range of numbers from Sipx to
>>     
> my 
>   
>> Rightfax server? I know I could have Verizon send them directly to the
>>     
>
>   
>> server, but they have proved to be difficult to work with, so I'm
>>     
> trying
>   
>> to keep as much control over this as possible.
>> As for the modem bank, it is only for outbound connections. I was 
>> ignorantly hoping there would be a simple SIP software modem client
>>     
> that
>   
>> would make this a breeze. I now understand why that isn't as simple as
>>     
> I
>   
>> was hoping. I only have a few hosts left that need to dial out. Is
>>     
> there
>   
>> something that would easily allow them to dial out through Sipx? Would
>>     
> I
>   
>> need to use a physical modem and hook up to the device described in
>>     
> part
>   
>> 1? My current modem bank ( http://www.perle.com/products/833-RAS.shtml
>>     
> )
>   
>> has 4 ISDN ports for outbound connection, so I could use that if it is
>>     
>
>   
>> an option to connect that somehow.
>>
>> Thanks for all the help everyone here provides!
>>
>> -Matthew
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