Makes me ask myself if a HA upgrade should have a special bootup
script/procedure to prevent the profile push but allow for a certificate
handshake/sunc to the other server before assuming any interactive roles
with users/gateway.
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Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Mock upgrade test with mismatched sipX versions

Perhaps what I'll do is reboot all the phones and while they're
rebooting I'll swap the servers out. sounds like a plan, ehh?

Josh Patten
Assistant Network Administrator
Brazos County IT Dept.
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On 4/29/2010 6:26 PM, Tony Graziano wrote:
> And if you do an upgrade and the server comes back online, would it matter
> since it will oush profiles and send reboot messages to the phones?
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> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Mock upgrade test with mismatched sipX versions
>
> Now that I reread your post Scott, it make much more sense, and this is
> what we ultimately decided to do. One question that may or may not be
> worth asking, is there an easy way to "copy" registrations over so that
> the mock upgrade system will immediately have all registrations so
> actually "downtime" will be minimal?
>
> Josh Patten
> Assistant Network Administrator
> Brazos County IT Dept.
> (979) 361-4676
>
>
> On 4/29/2010 3:18 PM, Scott Lawrence wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 14:51 -0500, Josh Patten wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Already did those things you recommended with the "First Test System".
>>> That doesn't "mirror" my current production environment. It only makes
>>> a separate environment that I can play around in.
>>>
>>> What I need to be able to do is have an exact replica of my 4.0.4
>>> production environment installed and upgraded to 4.2 on a separate
>>> server, then dropped in place of the production system for about a
>>> half hour so I can do extensive testing on a 4.2 system that mimics
>>> our configuration while not causing basic calling on the redundant
>>> proxy and all phones connected to it to go down. I just need to make
>>> sure that If I have the redundant proxy running 4.0.4 and the replica
>>> of the main production server running 4.2 that I won't see any
>>> problems when I unplug the replica 4.2 server and put the 4.0.4 main
>>> production server back in place.
>>>
>>> I know this sounds redundant and unnecessary and quite possibly
>>> confusing but this is the only way I can think of that will not cause
>>> any downtime for basic calling to users, and allow me to do FULL 4.2
>>> testing.
>>>
>>>
>> There are at least two tricky things about the test you describe
>> (upgrading only one of an HA pair and then testing it):
>>
>>         * Unless you _very_ carefully analyze where the packets went in
>>           your test calls, the one you upgraded could be badly broken and
>>           the fact that you have the old one still there in HA mode could
>>           cause all the calls to work anyway.
>>         * The upgraded master will try to reconfigure the distributed
>>           server, but that configuration won't take because the software
>>           version won't match (but the configuration could be corrupted
>>           such that on reboot the service won't come up - only bringing
>>           the original master back and pushing profiles will fix it).
>>
>> What you really want to do is create an entire HA pair of new systems by
>> cloning your existing servers onto them with the old software, then
>> upgrade the clones, then at some safe time swap the clones bringing all
>> the old servers off line.   Test the clones, and when you've satisfied
>> yourself that they work, do the upgrade on the originals and swap them
>> back in.  If you have spare hardware, you can just use the clones and
>> repurpose the originals; if not, you can use VMs to create the clones
>> and you end up doing the upgrades twice.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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