Gerald

We have nothing to hide and had open discussions with Avaya. Our preferred
model is cooperation, under the assumption that everyone plays by the rules
considered 'normal' for an open source project and defined in the SIPfoundry
founding documents.  With the main branch disappearing over a month ago, I
don't think these basic rules are met anymore.  Fixing this situation is
what we are working on.

Maybe this would be the time where you could explain 'who are you?'.  What
stake do you have in this or what have you contributed to put you in a
position to act and talk the way you do?
--martin


-----Original Message-----
From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org
[mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of Gerald Harper
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 12:14 PM
To: Todd Hodgen; 'Douglas Hubler'; 'Matt White'
Cc: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] is there an AVAYA branded/commercial
solutionbasedonsipXecs?

funny how everyone who is against talking about SCS vs sipXecs has an email 
address that ends with @ezuce.com

I received this a few minutes ago;

If you are interested in a supported / commercial version, we are in a
position to provide you what you need.

I am the original founder of SIPfoundry and left Nortel / Avaya back in
December when Avaya came in.  One of the key reasons was the lack of
interest Avaya showed to continue with this product in an Enterprise
positioning.  We created a new company called eZuce to take this forward and
make sure the project stays in open source.  We will launch eZuce publicly
in July.  We offer support for sipXecs as well as a commercial version
called openUC.

Let me know if you'd like more info
--martin

So now I understand why people are saying Avaya is not moving forward with 
the project.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Todd Hodgen" <thod...@verizon.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:03 AM
To: "'Gerald Harper'" <ger...@sustaa.com>; "'Douglas Hubler'" 
<dhub...@ezuce.com>; "'Matt White'" <mwh...@thesummit-grp.com>
Cc: <sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>
Subject: RE: [sipx-users] is there an AVAYA branded/commercial 
solutionbasedonsipXecs?

> This mailing list has just become unfriendly.
>
> I agree with Douglas, this is a list about the open source product.  If
> people are uncivilized on this list, everyone loses.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org
> [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of Gerald Harper
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 8:49 AM
> To: Douglas Hubler; Matt White
> Cc: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] is there an AVAYA branded/commercial
> solutionbasedonsipXecs?
>
> Not to be rude, but who the hell made you God? This is supposed to be a
> discussion of all things sipXecs and I had a question regarding SCS vs
> sipXecs, not my fault the thread was hijacked to be a "does it exist"
> question. I understand Avaya is your competition and suggesting they are 
> not
>
> going forward helps your cause, but lets not try to suppress free speech 
> or
> anything.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Douglas Hubler" <dhub...@ezuce.com>
>
>>
>> There is already enough confusion about SCS v.s. sipXecs on this
>> mailing list. If someone creates a mailing list or google group to
>> talk about SCS, it's be fine to post it here to let folks know how to
>> get engaged into a new community related to sipXecs.
>>
>
>
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