> > >I am someone who asked a question. My thread was hijacked into a "does Avaya >do SCS" question, to which I replied "yes" (Since I have one). I am not sure >about the politics between yourself and Avaya, I just wanted an answer to a
>question, you did not provide an answer to nor did you address my original >question, why you (and all the other Avaya bashers) jumped into this thread >I have no idea. I am sorry I ever uttered the name Avaya on your precious >open source board. > >Thanks to those that tried to answer the question... as for the rest of >you... There are no Avaya bashers on this list as far as I am concerned. Sometimes some posts are out of line, but that happens. As you continue to follow this list you will learn about the etiquette we have developed here over many years and we are proud of it. It's great you have an SCS. That makes you a supporter of the project and I hope there will be an increasing number of you. I myself have sold many SCS and think it is a great product, well worth its money and a product that could have transformed Nortel. --martin made you look! Smile, it's easier. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Martin Steinmann" <mstei...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 10:10 AM To: "'Gerald Harper'" <ger...@sustaa.com>; "'Todd Hodgen'" <thod...@verizon.net>; "'Douglas Hubler'" <dhub...@ezuce.com>; "'Matt White'" <mwh...@thesummit-grp.com> Cc: <sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org> Subject: RE: [sipx-users] is there an AVAYA branded/commercial solutionbasedonsipXecs? > Gerald > > We have nothing to hide and had open discussions with Avaya. Our preferred > model is cooperation, under the assumption that everyone plays by the > rules > considered 'normal' for an open source project and defined in the > SIPfoundry > founding documents. With the main branch disappearing over a month ago, I > don't think these basic rules are met anymore. Fixing this situation is > what we are working on. > > Maybe this would be the time where you could explain 'who are you?'. What > stake do you have in this or what have you contributed to put you in a > position to act and talk the way you do? > --martin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org > [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of Gerald Harper > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 12:14 PM > To: Todd Hodgen; 'Douglas Hubler'; 'Matt White' > Cc: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org > Subject: Re: [sipx-users] is there an AVAYA branded/commercial > solutionbasedonsipXecs? > > funny how everyone who is against talking about SCS vs sipXecs has an > email > address that ends with @ezuce.com > > I received this a few minutes ago; > > If you are interested in a supported / commercial version, we are in a > position to provide you what you need. > > I am the original founder of SIPfoundry and left Nortel / Avaya back in > December when Avaya came in. One of the key reasons was the lack of > interest Avaya showed to continue with this product in an Enterprise > positioning. We created a new company called eZuce to take this forward > and > make sure the project stays in open source. We will launch eZuce publicly > in July. We offer support for sipXecs as well as a commercial version > called openUC. > > Let me know if you'd like more info > --martin > > So now I understand why people are saying Avaya is not moving forward with > the project. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Todd Hodgen" <thod...@verizon.net> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:03 AM > To: "'Gerald Harper'" <ger...@sustaa.com>; "'Douglas Hubler'" > <dhub...@ezuce.com>; "'Matt White'" <mwh...@thesummit-grp.com> > Cc: <sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org> > Subject: RE: [sipx-users] is there an AVAYA branded/commercial > solutionbasedonsipXecs? > >> This mailing list has just become unfriendly. >> >> I agree with Douglas, this is a list about the open source product. If >> people are uncivilized on this list, everyone loses. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org >> [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of Gerald >> Harper >> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 8:49 AM >> To: Douglas Hubler; Matt White >> Cc: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org >> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] is there an AVAYA branded/commercial >> solutionbasedonsipXecs? >> >> Not to be rude, but who the hell made you God? This is supposed to be a >> discussion of all things sipXecs and I had a question regarding SCS vs >> sipXecs, not my fault the thread was hijacked to be a "does it exist" >> question. I understand Avaya is your competition and suggesting they are >> not >> >> going forward helps your cause, but lets not try to suppress free speech >> or >> anything. >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Douglas Hubler" <dhub...@ezuce.com> >> >>> >>> There is already enough confusion about SCS v.s. sipXecs on this >>> mailing list. If someone creates a mailing list or google group to >>> talk about SCS, it's be fine to post it here to let folks know how to >>> get engaged into a new community related to sipXecs. >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org >> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users >> Unsubscribe: http://list.sipfoundry.org/mailman/listinfo/sipx-users >> sipXecs IP PBX -- http://www.sipfoundry.org/ >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users > Unsubscribe: http://list.sipfoundry.org/mailman/listinfo/sipx-users > sipXecs IP PBX -- http://www.sipfoundry.org/ > > _______________________________________________ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users Unsubscribe: http://list.sipfoundry.org/mailman/listinfo/sipx-users sipXecs IP PBX -- http://www.sipfoundry.org/
