The site is done in Liferay The wiki is done in confluence the tracker is done in jira.
Am 22.11.2010 um 04:07 schrieb Tony Graziano: > It is called confluence. > ============================ > Tony Graziano, Manager > Telephone: 434.984.8430 > Fax: 434.984.8431 > > Email: tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net > > LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk: > Telephone: 434.984.8426 > Fax: 434.984.8427 > > Helpdesk Contract Customers: > http://www.myitdepartment.net/gethelp/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org > <sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org> > To: 'Discussion list for users of sipXecs software' > <sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>; t...@sharedcom.net <t...@sharedcom.net> > Sent: Sun Nov 21 21:58:26 2010 > Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Wiki cleanup day results > > Martin, > > > > The Sipfoundry.org site is based on a CMS system if I'm not mistaken. I > know the old one was Joomla, I'm not sure what the new one is. > > > > Maybe some of the content on the wiki is better served being on the web > site, within specific pages that are dedicated to things like documentation, > etc. Just a thought. > > > > > > > > From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org > [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of Martin > Steinmann > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 4:19 PM > To: t...@sharedcom.net; 'Discussion list for users of sipXecs software' > Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Wiki cleanup day results > > > > Tim > > > > We will take all the help we can get - many thanks for your offer. If you > are available we could talk tomorrow to help you get started and get the > necessary rights. Let me know > > --martin > > > > > > From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org > [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of Tim Ingalls > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 9:30 PM > To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software > Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Wiki cleanup day results > > > > I'd like to help with the organization of the Web site. I'm not a > programmer, and I'm new to the sipX project, but I think this is an area > that I could contribute. > > I find the navigation of the site completely maddening, especially with the > recent changes made in the past week. I think the whole navigation structure > should be scrapped and a new information structure and menu system > formulated. > > Just a few examples of issues I've found with the site: > > 1. When you are looking for something simple from the main page, (like > the download directory) you can't easily find it. From the main page of > www.sipfoundry.org, there isn't even a direct link to the sipXecs pages > (like the Start Here page). I ended up having to randomly click on things > until I found (three or four pages later) a link to the sipXecs start page. > 2. I noticed that links from outside sites (like ezuce.com) go to links > that don't exist or have been moved. Drupal could fix that by automatically > redirecting pages that get merged, deleted, renamed, or moved. > 3. There are a lot of pages that are incomplete, like one of two pages > with instructions on how to get sipXecs installed on Debian, but these pages > are still listed in the menu pane to the left. The old or incomplete pages > are given the same weight as the current pages. > 4. The strongest content gets buried within minutia. > 5. There doesn't seem to be a good information flow that would follow > the workflow involved in getting initially familiarized with sipXecs all the > way to implementing and supporting an installed instance. The learning curve > is made very difficult because a person needs to read through a ton of > information scattered around before they can develop a cognitive map of the > process. I had no problem implementing (from source code) Asterisk, FreePBX, > Trixbox, etc., but I've barely scratched the surface of implementing > sipXecs. > > Have you considered using Drupal to manage the site? Drupal does everything > a wiki can do and more. It could make the task of managing the site simpler > by implementing a workflow process for approval of new pages and edits when > appropriate. Changing menu structure is a snap. That would introduce order > by allowing one or two people who know the plan for the site to control its > evolution. Is there one person who is in charge of the structure of the > site? If not, there should be. Otherwise, it becomes chaotic. I know it's a > wiki, but wikis have a problem of introducing chaos since everyone has their > own idea of where site content should go. Wikis also have a problem with > enforcing content standards for completeness, readability, relevance, > correctness, etc. If you look at Wikipedia, they had to create a ton of > standards and processes to keep the information from becoming a chaotic > mess. > > The first thing I would do is to logically map out the structure of all of > the information that needs to be presented and catalog how the existing > content relates. > > Thanks, > > Tim Ingalls > Shared Communications, Inc. > <file:///C:\Program%20Files%20(x86)\openUCToolbar\StatusImages\phone.png> > 801-618-2102 Office > > > > > Douglas Hubler wrote: > > Everyone, > > We had a successful wiki cleanup day although there is still much more > to do. Thanks to all the participated. Here are the details > > There was more duplication information that even i expected. This was > mostly because pages could not be found and so new pages were created. > This issue snowballed for many years. There were a couple reasons > why pages were not found: > > * overall navigation is not clean > * pages had many levels deep of classification with no common thought > to a classification that wasn't overlapping with other > classifications. > * automatic indexing appears to not be working. This probably > happened after the move from avaya > > To this end, we decided to > * classification - start out with only a few, mutually exclusive > classifications. I did restore a few sub-classifications for things > phone and gateway vendors. > * navigation - use "labels" to group similar pages that in different > classifications but are related. Examples: security, diagnostics, > polycom,... > > What's left to do > * there are still many pages that have not been moved into the proper > classification. These show in the navigation starting below > "Testimonials" > * there are still many pages where old information has not been removed > * there are still several pages that have similar content that need to > be consolidated > * confluence still isn't automatically indexing new pages. i don't > know what's wrong i ran thru a number of fixes other folks have > reported works. this still needs to be fixed > > Even once the above work is done, we need an ongoing process to > enforce classifications and remove duplication. I created a wiki team > http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Documentation+Team > who is responsible for keeping the wiki in proper health. Volunteers > will help recognize duplication or improper classification and stamp > it out early. That could be you? > > If you cannot find your pages, please do not create a new one, try > searching for it. If that doesn't work, try browsing for it in the > pages list. if that doesn't work, then maybe it's time create a new > page. feel free to email me as well in case there was a mistake in > the cleaning process. > _______________________________________________ > sipx-users mailing list > sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ > _______________________________________________ > sipx-users mailing list > sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ Michal Bielicki Geschäftsführer / CEO Seventh Signal Ltd. & Co. 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