MAPI is really for applications generating email and connecting to it, really to call a messaging server to send a message. Its a library to enhance the dataset on the more commercial aspect of mail (that's why when you install one of the big commercial email clients your mapi32.dll, etc., gets exchanged for a different one (goes from 128k in size to almost 800k).
I've never seen an actual gateway use MAPI to broker messages or synchronization between to different systems. I have seen an API gateway do so. When you are dealing with MS there is no guarantee they won't break it at any time. So I appreciate the creative thinking. Perhaps if the user inserted an IMAP or POP account into their outlook instead? Why couldn't the IMAP server run on sipx on its own domain? You would still delete from Outlook, just in a different folder. What would prevent you from installing an imap client on your smartphone? Wouldn't it be nice when your next Exchange SP blows up, voicemail (and voicemail to email) is not affected? On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 3:18 AM, Michael Picher <mpic...@ezuce.com> wrote: > davmail isn't really applicable. That's for multiple client types hitting > Exchange. > > What most really are looking for here is a means to synchronize voicemail > from the Voicemail server in sipXecs to Exchange. The back-end integration > would allow users to listen / delete their mail in exchange and have it > extinguish their MWI on their phone and in reverse, listen to/delete their > voicemail in sipXecs and have their message marked as read/deleted in > Exchange. > > Right now the back-end Exchange integration works up through Exchange 2010 > without SP1. Microsoft changed some things in 2010 SP1 that broke things > again. We think you might be able to fix these signalling issues with a > SBC. > > The other 'low-rent' sync was a user by user IMAP sync that worked in > Exchange 2003 - 2007 (maybe). This solution does not scale very well. It > was configured on a user by user basis and again broke when MS changed their > IMAP stuff to eliminate the SEARCH function. > > Mike > > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Flatfender <flatfen...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I don't know if this is reliable/stable enough yet, but this may be an >> option. http://davmail.sourceforge.net/ >> >> Matt P.. >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Geoff Van Brunt >> <gvanbr...@dstgroup.com>wrote: >> >>> Actually, the web services api seems to be usable based on a quick look I >>> did. Would work with 2007 & 2010. Not sure about 2003. However Mapi does >>> work with 2003.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Can anyone direct me to the source files that contain the functionality >>> of the current mapi implementation in Sipx?**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Thanks**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *Geoff Van Brunt* >>> IT Manager >>> Thunder Bay >>> >>> **** >>> >>> *T *807.626.1306 >>> *F *807.623.1792 >>> www.dstgroup.com**** >>> >>> *M *807.476.7002 >>> *IP *1306 >>> gvanbr...@dstgroup.com**** >>> >>> [image: Description: >>> C:\Users\gvanbrunt\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Signatures\DST Signature (Geoff >>> Van Brunt)-Image01.gif]**** >>> >>> [image: Description: >>> C:\Users\gvanbrunt\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Signatures\DST Signature (Geoff >>> Van Brunt)-Image02.gif]*Please consider the environment before printing >>> this e-mail.***** >>> >>> *This e-mail may be privileged and/or confidential, and the sender does >>> not waive any related rights and obligations. Any distribution, use or >>> copying of this e-mail or the information it contains by other than an >>> intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this e-mail in error, >>> please advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise) immediately. >>> >>> Ce courriel peut être confidentiel et/ou protégé et l'expéditeur ne >>> renonce pas aux droits et obligations qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, >>> utilisation ou copie de ce message ou des renseignements qu'il contient par >>> une personne autre qu'un(e) destinataire désigné(e) est interdite. Si vous >>> recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez m'en aviser immédiatement, par >>> retour de courriel ou par un autre moyen.)***** >>> >>> *From:* sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org [mailto: >>> sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] *On Behalf Of *Geoff Van Brunt >>> *Sent:* August-31-11 12:31 PM >>> >>> *To:* Discussion list for users of sipXecs software >>> *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] IMAP - Exchange 2010 Sync**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> The other option is to write a plug in for Exchange that runs on the >>> Exchange box. The API is unlikely to change. I can look at some details in a >>> couple of weeks if this is the only option. We will be pushing out Exchange >>> 2010 in a couple of months and we need this working as well.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *Geoff Van Brunt* >>> IT Manager >>> Thunder Bay**** >>> >>> *T *807.626.1306 >>> *F *807.623.1792 >>> www.dstgroup.com**** >>> >>> *M *807.476.7002 >>> *IP *1306 >>> gvanbr...@dstgroup.com**** >>> >>> [image: Description: >>> C:\Users\gvanbrunt\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Signatures\DST Signature (Geoff >>> Van Brunt)-Image01.gif]**** >>> >>> [image: Description: >>> C:\Users\gvanbrunt\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Signatures\DST Signature (Geoff >>> Van Brunt)-Image02.gif]*Please consider the environment before printing >>> this e-mail.***** >>> >>> *This e-mail may be privileged and/or confidential, and the sender does >>> not waive any related rights and obligations. Any distribution, use or >>> copying of this e-mail or the information it contains by other than an >>> intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this e-mail in error, >>> please advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise) immediately. >>> >>> Ce courriel peut être confidentiel et/ou protégé et l'expéditeur ne >>> renonce pas aux droits et obligations qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, >>> utilisation ou copie de ce message ou des renseignements qu'il contient par >>> une personne autre qu'un(e) destinataire désigné(e) est interdite. Si vous >>> recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez m'en aviser immédiatement, par >>> retour de courriel ou par un autre moyen.)***** >>> >>> *From:* sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org >>> [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] *On Behalf Of *Tony >>> Graziano >>> *Sent:* August-30-11 8:50 AM >>> *To:* Discussion list for users of sipXecs software >>> *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] IMAP - Exchange 2010 Sync**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> this would most likely be useless. the IMAP method sipx uses is very >>> dependent on SEARCHES in HEADERS. Then you imap proxy still communicates >>> with exchange to delete a certain message because all that is doing is >>> passing that through to exchange. **** >>> >>> what you want or think is going to happen won't. you assume that the >>> proxy (imap) will in turn somehow know how to tell exchange to delete the >>> proper message. it will not because there is no method defined. if you can >>> get into the exchange mail store and find the message and the method to deal >>> with it... congratulations you have just written an api gateway... see my >>> last post**** >>> >>> On Aug 30, 2011 8:38 AM, "Chris Rawlings" <cm.rawli...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > what about an IMAP gateway /proxy / frontend for exchange server >>> backend... >>> > just for SipX to talk to >>> > >>> > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Tony Graziano < >>> tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net >>> >> wrote: >>> > >>> >> In the UM worls there are two ways to do this: >>> >> >>> >> 1. IMAP (if the vendor supports "SEARCHES" properly). >>> >> 2. GATEWAY - Back in the early 90's I was with a firm that did VM >>> >> integration to Exchange, GroupWise and Lotus Notes. It was flawless. >>> Each >>> >> used a voicemail server (novell or windows) to integrate to the phone >>> system >>> >> (about 300 different phones switches were supported). We had the >>> voicemail >>> >> come to the email account as a PCM file (tinier than MP3 rated way >>> down) and >>> >> auto upconverted on the PC it when you played it with a plugin, which >>> was >>> >> great on bandwidth. When you deleted the email, the gateway interacted >>> with >>> >> the mail server to also deleted the voice off of the voicemail system. >>> The >>> >> MWi light extinguished instantly. >>> >> >>> >> Someone would have to write a gateway that would work with exchange >>> and >>> >> HOPE they don't decide to keep putting out updates to break it too. It >>> is >>> >> difficult thinking that a gateway will be the right answer, I'd like >>> to see >>> >> an API into gmail myself first, but even google has a problem letting >>> people >>> >> into the message store. I don't think Redmond has EVER been any >>> different. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Chris Rawlings < >>> cm.rawli...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> imho i would suggest that the Unified Messaging built into SipX would >>> be >>> >>> Exchange compatible. not everyone wants to pay for Enterprise CAL's >>> for >>> >>> exchange 2010.. and SipX has a very nice implementation for UM using >>> IMAP >>> >>> ... just should work with Exchange... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Tony Graziano < >>> >>> tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> me either. I think the way to do this perhaps is with an api 4 >>> specific >>> >>>> imap implementations like the ones you mentioned. >>> >>>> On Aug 22, 2011 9:58 AM, "Josh Patten" <jpat...@ezuce.com> wrote: >>> >>>> > I lol'd...stupid autocorrect! >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > In any case I'm pretty sure MS removed the SEARCHES capability. So >>> >>>> unless >>> >>>> > someone gets in and figures out a way to interop with super >>> watered >>> >>>> down >>> >>>> > IMAP servers like the ones included with gmail, Novell Groupwise, >>> and >>> >>>> MS >>> >>>> > Exchange I don't ever see this working again. >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Tony Graziano < >>> >>>> tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net >>> >>>> >> wrote: >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> >> exchange >>> >>>> >> On Aug 22, 2011 9:12 AM, "Chris Rawlings" <cm.rawli...@gmail.com >>> > >>> >>>> wrote: >>> >>>> >> > what is a ex hangs config ? >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Tony Graziano < >>> >>>> >> tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net >>> >>>> >> >> wrote: >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> if the imap server does not list "SEARCHES" in its >>> capabilities it >>> >>>> will >>> >>>> >> >> never work. >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> telnet to the imap server and see what it advertises. look at >>> the >>> >>>> ex >>> >>>> >> hangs >>> >>>> >> >> config and see if the function is available but not turned on. >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> not all imap servers can do SEARCHES. >>> >>>> >> >> On Aug 22, 2011 9:05 AM, "Chris Rawlings" < >>> cm.rawli...@gmail.com> >>> >>>> >> wrote: >>> >>>> >> >> > yeah i have the issue with Exchange 2010 SP1 also.. ijust >>> setup >>> >>>> >> another >>> >>>> >> >> > Exchange 2010 box non sp1 with only UM roles... then pointed >>> SipX >>> >>>> to >>> >>>> >> >> that. >>> >>>> >> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Josh Patten < >>> jpat...@ezuce.com> >>> >>>> >> wrote: >>> >>>> >> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> >> Microsoft has been doing strange things to their interop >>> with >>> >>>> >> exchange >>> >>>> >> >> 2010 >>> >>>> >> >> >> on all fronts lately. I never got IMAP sync working with >>> 2010 >>> >>>> and >>> >>>> >> >> they've >>> >>>> >> >> >> recently broken their SIP signalling for exchange UM >>> integration >>> >>>> with >>> >>>> >> >> >> Exchange 2010 SP1. >>> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Tony Graziano < >>> >>>> >> >> >> tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net> wrote: >>> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> does your imap implementation support SEARCHES in a query? >>> >>>> >> >> >>> On Aug 21, 2011 6:37 PM, "Chris Rawlings" < >>> >>>> cm.rawli...@gmail.com> >>> >>>> >> >> wrote: >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > any idea if this is fixed or ready to go? >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > no exchange 2010 sync with IMAP >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > -- >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > Thank You, >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > Chris Rawlings >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > IT Consultant >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > phone - 610.741.3324 >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > VCP RHCE RHCT MCSE >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>> >> >> >>> sipx-users mailing list >>> >>>> >> >> >>> sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org >>> >>>> >> >> >>> List Archive: >>> http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> -- >>> >>>> >> >> >> Josh Patten >>> >>>> >> >> >> eZuce >>> >>>> >> >> >> Solutions Architect >>> >>>> >> >> >> O.978-296-1005 X2050 >>> >>>> >> >> >> M.979-574-5699 >>> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>> >> >> >> sipx-users mailing list >>> >>>> >> >> >> sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org >>> >>>> >> >> >> List Archive: >>> http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >>> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > -- >>> >>>> >> >> > Thank You, >>> >>>> >> >> > Chris Rawlings >>> >>>> >> >> > IT Consultant >>> >>>> >> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > phone - 610.741.3324 >>> >>>> >> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > VCP RHCE RHCT MCSE >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>> >> >> sipx-users mailing list >>> >>>> >> >> sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org >>> >>>> >> >> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> > -- >>> >>>> >> > Thank You, >>> >>>> >> > Chris Rawlings >>> >>>> >> > IT Consultant >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> > phone - 610.741.3324 >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> > VCP RHCE RHCT MCSE >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>> >> sipx-users mailing list >>> >>>> >> sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org >>> >>>> >> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > -- >>> >>>> > Josh Patten >>> >>>> > eZuce >>> >>>> > Solutions Architect >>> >>>> > O.978-296-1005 X2050 >>> >>>> > M.979-574-5699 >>> >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>> sipx-users mailing list >>> >>>> sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org >>> >>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Thank You, >>> >>> Chris Rawlings >>> >>> IT Consultant >>> >>> >>> >>> phone - 610.741.3324 >>> >>> >>> >>> VCP RHCE RHCT MCSE >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> sipx-users mailing list >>> >>> sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org >>> >>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> ====================== >>> >> Tony Graziano, Manager >>> >> Telephone: 434.984.8430 >>> >> sip: tgrazi...@voice.myitdepartment.net >>> >> Fax: 434.465.6833 >>> >> >>> >> Email: tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net >>> >> >>> >> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk: >>> >> Telephone: 434.984.8426 >>> >> sip: helpd...@voice.myitdepartment.net >>> >> >>> >> Helpdesk Contract Customers: >>> >> http://support.myitdepartment.net >>> >> >>> >> <http://support.myitdepartment.net>Blog: >>> >> http://blog.myitdepartment.net >>> >> >>> >> Linked-In Profile: >>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4 >>> >> >>> >> Ask about our Internet faxservices! >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> sipx-users mailing list >>> >> sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org >>> >> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Thank You, >>> > Chris Rawlings >>> > IT Consultant >>> > >>> > phone - 610.741.3324 >>> > >>> > VCP RHCE RHCT MCSE**** >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sipx-users mailing list >>> sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org >>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sipx-users mailing list >> sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org >> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >> > > > > -- > Michael Picher > eZuce > Director of Technical Services > O.978-296-1005 X2015 > M.207-956-0262 > @mpicher <http://twitter.com/mpicher> > www.ezuce.com > > > _______________________________________________ > sipx-users mailing list > sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ > -- ====================== Tony Graziano, Manager Telephone: 434.984.8430 sip: tgrazi...@voice.myitdepartment.net Fax: 434.465.6833 Email: tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk: Telephone: 434.984.8426 sip: helpd...@voice.myitdepartment.net Helpdesk Contract Customers: http://support.myitdepartment.net <http://support.myitdepartment.net>Blog: http://blog.myitdepartment.net Linked-In Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4 Ask about our Internet faxservices!
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