Ok thanks. I just sent if off.  I did just remember, they mentioned if the
adtran is set for "Network" transfer vs "Local" it wouldn't work.

"For example, the ADTRAN will not send an INVITE in response to a REFER if
the transfer-mode is network"

I tried setting the transfer mode to "Local" and when I park a call
"transfer+ext" it kick the user into the voice mail of the person
transferring them.

Does that help with or change anything at all? Clearly its not right.

-Bryan Anderson



On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Josh Patten <jpat...@ezuce.com> wrote:

> Try sending them my response to the mailing list and see where that gets
> you. If they balk at it, then I'll see how I can explain it better to them.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Josh Patten <jpat...@ezuce.com> wrote:
>
>> With all the interop testing I've had to do I've become pretty good at
>> picking things like this out and calling their bluff. Thanks Tony!
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Tony Graziano <
>> tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net> wrote:
>>
>>> REFER has been around a while, not everyone supports it in a way that
>>> makes sense (per the RFC).
>>>
>>> If REFER is supported, the accused scenario will work. If it is not
>>> supported an SBC that can hold the refer locally and bridge the call legs
>>> together and manage the transfers is required.
>>>
>>> The question to both Adtran and Digium is the same: Do you support
>>> RFC-3515 (REFER) in product x. Which is exactly what Josh seems to have
>>> asked.
>>>
>>> Go Josh!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Josh Patten <jpat...@ezuce.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It looks like Adtran and Digium are screaming the same thing. I'm going
>>>> to post the response I sent to Digium:
>>>>
>>>> According to http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5589#page-26 (see the
>>>> refer-to on page 27) this is a valid transfer scenario. I have attached a
>>>> valid capture using FreeSWITCH as a gateway, and when the particular REFER
>>>> that is giving the Adtran GW problems comes up, it simply performs the
>>>> refer and marks the replaces in the INVITE (see highlights):
>>>>
>>>> REFER sip:gw+sip.corp.ezuce.com@172.16.1.90:5080;transport=udp;gw=
>>>> sip.corp.ezuce.com SIP/2.0
>>>> From: <sip:4...@sip.corp.ezuce.com>;tag=4Ut224
>>>> To: "4092330016"<sip:~~id~me...@sip.corp.ezuce.com>;tag=Se415mQNX7D7D
>>>> Call-Id: 4d339693-a499-1230-729f-fad9dc40d221
>>>> Cseq: 3 REFER
>>>> Contact: <sip:41@172.16.1.5:5120;transport=tcp;x-sipX-nonat>
>>>> Referred-By: <sip:4...@sip.corp.ezuce.com>
>>>> Refer-To: <*sip:2...@sip.corp.ezuce.com?**
>>>> REPLACES=a0511239-ab6decb2-99d54f8f%40172.16.1.51%3Bto-tag%3DCA50B7BD-573B246%3Bfrom-tag%3DLkTYH8&REQUIRE=replaces&X-sipX-Authidentity=%3Csip%3A%7E%7Eid%7Epark%
>>>> 40sip.corp.ezuce.com
>>>> %3Bsignature%3D509C36D7%253A%253Ad1b624445c9e26173fe0de17f291d62d%3E&REFERENCES=4d339693-a499-1230-729f-fad9dc40d221%3Brel%3Drefer
>>>> *>
>>>> References: a0511239-ab6decb2-99d54f8f@172.16.1.51;rel=xfer
>>>> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 22:48:55 GMT
>>>> Max-Forwards: 19
>>>> User-Agent: sipXecs/4.6.0 sipXecs/park (Linux)
>>>> Accept-Language: en
>>>>
>>>> Allow: INVITE, ACK, CANCEL, BYE, REFER, OPTIONS, NOTIFY, SUBSCRIBE
>>>> Supported: replaces
>>>> Proxy-Authorization: Digest username="~~id~park", realm="
>>>> sip.corp.ezuce.com", nonce="5c81f6a19cf6bd3bcaefdfe726e2db2e509c36d7",
>>>> uri="sip:gw+sip.corp.ezuce.com@172.16.1.90:5080;transport=udp;gw=
>>>> sip.corp.ezuce.com", response="a8fdc3b3eeb0f5e52ef91342aba9df3f",
>>>> cnonce="jbJLTS", qop=auth, nc=00000001
>>>> Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 172.16.1.5;branch=z9hG4bK-XX-0b96Qj3NNqiD6usxS_3GIL_emg
>>>> Via: SIP/2.0/TCP 172.16.1.5:5120
>>>> ;branch=z9hG4bK-XX-003aW8u6STjzakMVEqA5D65UPg;id=18008-29
>>>> Content-Length: 0
>>>>
>>>> SIP/2.0 202 Accepted
>>>> Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 172.16.1.5;branch=z9hG4bK-XX-0b96Qj3NNqiD6usxS_3GIL_emg
>>>> Via: SIP/2.0/TCP 172.16.1.5:5120
>>>> ;branch=z9hG4bK-XX-003aW8u6STjzakMVEqA5D65UPg;id=18008-29
>>>> From: <sip:4...@sip.corp.ezuce.com>;tag=4Ut224
>>>> To: "4092330016" <sip:~~id~me...@sip.corp.ezuce.com>;tag=Se415mQNX7D7D
>>>> Call-ID: 4d339693-a499-1230-729f-fad9dc40d221
>>>> CSeq: 3 REFER
>>>> Contact: <sip:gw+sip.corp.ezuce.com@172.16.1.90:5080;transport=udp;gw=
>>>> sip.corp.ezuce.com>
>>>> Expires: 60
>>>> User-Agent: FreeSWITCH-mod_sofia/1.2.3
>>>> Allow: INVITE, ACK, BYE, CANCEL, OPTIONS, MESSAGE, INFO, UPDATE,
>>>> REGISTER, REFER, NOTIFY
>>>> Supported: timer, precondition, path, replaces
>>>> Allow-Events: talk, hold, conference, refer
>>>> Content-Length: 0
>>>>
>>>> INVITE *sip:2...@sip.corp.ezuce.com* SIP/2.0
>>>> Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 172.16.1.90:5080;rport;branch=z9hG4bK2pQyFrXy5e8mN
>>>> Max-Forwards: 70
>>>> From: "4092330016" <sip:4092330016@172.16.1.90>;tag=tQXt7F8rtg4SS
>>>> To: <sip:2...@sip.corp.ezuce.com>
>>>> Call-ID: 50251028-a499-1230-729f-fad9dc40d221
>>>> CSeq: 35871402 INVITE
>>>> Contact: <sip:mod_sofia@172.16.1.90:5080>
>>>> User-Agent: FreeSWITCH-mod_sofia/1.2.3
>>>> Allow: INVITE, ACK, BYE, CANCEL, OPTIONS, MESSAGE, INFO, UPDATE,
>>>> REGISTER, REFER, NOTIFY
>>>> *Require: replaces*
>>>> Supported: timer, precondition, path, replaces
>>>> Allow-Events: talk, hold, conference, refer
>>>> *Replaces: a0511239-ab6decb2-99d54f8f@172.16.1.51
>>>> ;to-tag=CA50B7BD-573B246;from-tag=LkTYH8*
>>>> Content-Type: application/sdp
>>>> Content-Disposition: session
>>>> Content-Length: 255
>>>> X-FS-Support: update_display,send_info
>>>> *X-sipX-Authidentity: <sip:~~id~p...@sip.corp.ezuce.com
>>>> ;signature=509C36D7%3A%3Ad1b624445c9e26173fe0de17f291d62d>
>>>> REFERENCES: 4d339693-a499-1230-729f-fad9dc40d221;rel=refer
>>>> *Remote-Party-ID: "4092330016" <sip:4092330016@172.16.1.90
>>>> >;party=calling;screen=yes;privacy=off
>>>>
>>>> Obviously the Adtran will not have knowledge of it, it's a call dialog
>>>> on a completely different SIP client. Refer-To does not use existing
>>>> dialogs to perform REFER. This is allowed per RFC 3515:
>>>>
>>>> 2.4.3 Accessing the Referred-to Resource
>>>>
>>>>    The resource identified by the Refer-To URI is contacted using the
>>>>    normal mechanisms for that URI type.  For example, if the URI is a
>>>>    SIP URI indicating INVITE (using a method=INVITE URI parameter for
>>>>    example), the UA would issue a new INVITE using all of the normal
>>>>    rules for sending an INVITE defined in [1].
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Bryan Anderson 
>>>> <shadow...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So as I said before I am not well versed in the SIP protocol but this
>>>>> was Adtrans response.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Bryan,
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not believe this to be an ADTRAN issue.  The call leg that is
>>>>> being replaced only exists on that PBX.  Check out the Refer message sent
>>>>> to the ADTRAN:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Rx: UDP src=10.0.31.5:5060 dst=10.0.31.4:5060
>>>>> 18:07:20.905 SIP.STACK MSG         REFER sip:10.0.31.4:5060;transport=
>>>>> UDP SIP/2.0
>>>>> 18:07:20.905 SIP.STACK MSG         From: <sip:6...@inwsip.lcsnw.org
>>>>> >;tag=NkynMZ
>>>>> 18:07:20.905 SIP.STACK MSG         To:
>>>>> <sip:10.0.31.4>;tag=3bd6630-7f000001-13c4-2e2d5b-dce8ab25-2e2d5b
>>>>> 18:07:20.906 SIP.STACK MSG         Call-Id:
>>>>> 3bffb58-7f000001-13c4-2e2d5b-cf3f8dba-2e2d5b@10.0.31.4
>>>>> 18:07:20.906 SIP.STACK MSG         Cseq: 3 REFER
>>>>> 18:07:20.906 SIP.STACK MSG         Contact: <sip:6001@10.0.31.5:5120
>>>>> ;transport=tcp;x-sipX-nonat>
>>>>> 18:07:20.906 SIP.STACK MSG         Referred-By: <
>>>>> sip:6...@inwsip.lcsnw.org>
>>>>> 18:07:20.906 SIP.STACK MSG         Refer-To: <
>>>>> sip:5...@inwsip.lcsnw.org?REPLACES=a5320d9d-1d788972-8a9aa6d3%4010.0.27.106%3Bto-tag%3D1C951DC1-EB497A86%3Bfrom-tag%3Drp_5OC&REQUIRE=replaces&X-sipX-Authidentity=%3Csip%3A%7E%7Eid%7Epark%40inwsip.lcsnw.org%3Bsignature%3D50C7E6D8%253A%253A05936d0a35fdf946cde62d9a14e3e446%3E&REFERENCES=3bffb58-7f000001-13c4-2e2d5b-cf3f8dba-2e2d5b%4010.0.31.4%3Brel%3Drefer
>>>>> >
>>>>> 18:07:20.906 SIP.STACK MSG         References:
>>>>> a5320d9d-1d788972-8a9aa6d3@10.0.27.106;rel=xfer
>>>>> 18:07:20.907 SIP.STACK MSG         Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 02:07:20 GMT
>>>>> 18:07:20.907 SIP.STACK MSG         Max-Forwards: 19
>>>>> 18:07:20.907 SIP.STACK MSG         User-Agent: sipXecs/4.4.0
>>>>> sipXecs/park (Linux)
>>>>> 18:07:20.907 SIP.STACK MSG         Accept-Language: en
>>>>> 18:07:20.907 SIP.STACK MSG         Allow: INVITE, ACK, CANCEL, BYE,
>>>>> REFER, OPTIONS, NOTIFY, SUBSCRIBE
>>>>> 18:07:20.907 SIP.STACK MSG         Supported: replaces
>>>>>
>>>>> Below is the Refer To from that message:
>>>>>
>>>>> Refer-To: <
>>>>> sip:5...@inwsip.lcsnw.org?REPLACES=a5320d9d-1d788972-8a9aa6d3%4010.0.27.106%3Bto-tag%3D1C951DC1-EB497A86%3Bfrom-tag%3Drp_5OC&REQUIRE=replaces&X-sipX-Authidentity=%3Csip%3A%7E%7Eid%7Epark%40inwsip.lcsnw.org%3Bsignature%3D50C7E6D8%253A%253A05936d0a35fdf946cde62d9a14e3e446%3E&REFERENCES=3bffb58-7f000001-13c4-2e2d5b-cf3f8dba-2e2d5b%4010.0.31.4%3Brel%3Drefer
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> The call-id is not seen anywhere else in this debug meaning, that
>>>>> portion of the call is not on the ADTRAN.  The ADTRAN accepts the Refer to
>>>>> it is up to the other device to tear that call down.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Geoff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Bryan Anderson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Ali Ardestani <
>>>>> ali.ardest...@pnmac.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  You need to install ngrep and do an ngrep -Wbyline port 5060 to
>>>>>> trace sip messaging
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, December 7, 2012, Bryan Anderson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I pulled some tests and some traces, and have also opened a
>>>>>>> ticket with Adtran.  Using a Dialog Count I identified the following
>>>>>>> callid's to be in reference to one call.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I called into the system with my cell  to an alias (1811) on the
>>>>>>> extension(5063).  I was parked on x6000. Extension 1802 retrieved the 
>>>>>>> call
>>>>>>> and then we ended. (4=adtran 5=SipXecs, 181=x5603, 147=x1802)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             61       INVITE   2012-12-07T20:05:51
>>>>>>> 3c0e5b8-7f000001-13c4-2892d7-e3be3276-2892d7@10.0.31.4 => 4311 ->
>>>>>>> 1811(5063) -> 6000
>>>>>>>             30       INVITE   2012-12-07T20:06:21
>>>>>>> 3f55ee95-7ee55086-ee3f7323@10.0.31.181 => MoH
>>>>>>>             30       INVITE   2012-12-07T20:06:27
>>>>>>> a93cae45-a1b73e76-8a9dd253@10.0.31.181 => 6000
>>>>>>>             33       INVITE   2012-12-07T20:06:28
>>>>>>> 3c0ed38-7f000001-13c4-2892fb-c2bd77a9-2892fb@10.0.31.4 => 6000
>>>>>>>             30       INVITE   2012-12-07T20:06:51
>>>>>>> 193ddbd-44cbfc8e-4975aa8b@10.0.31.147 => 1802 -> 6000 retrieve call
>>>>>>>             29       INVITE   2012-12-07T20:06:52
>>>>>>> 3c0eb58-7f000001-13c4-289313-94be59a7-289313@10.0.31.4 => (From
>>>>>>> 1802 retrieving the call) 4311 -> 1802
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where does the BLF for the call park get so it doesn't release?
>>>>>>> That is what I am looking for.  I am sorry I just don't know the SIP
>>>>>>> protocol well enough to find it on my own.  I have seen this with 
>>>>>>> Polycom
>>>>>>> firmwares 3.2.4, 3.2.7 and yes 3.3.0 and 4.0.3(this trace).  I have a 
>>>>>>> debug
>>>>>>> off the adtran to send to them, but they asked me were it is failing 
>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>> just don't know for sure myself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Bryan Anderson
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Bryan Anderson <shadow...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the reply and I will defiantly test it.  We use a T1 for
>>>>>>> service into the Adtran and the Adtran is in SipXecs as an unmanaged
>>>>>>> gateway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Bryan Anderson
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Ali Ardestani <
>>>>>>> ali.ardest...@pnmac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is how we implemented call park with polycom and it works (it
>>>>>>> is a workaround though)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Extension 700 forwards to 701, 702, 703 and 703
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. added the below to the custom config of the phones (this is done
>>>>>>> so that the key does not timeout after 1 minute and call the park orbit
>>>>>>> directly
>>>>>>>         <call
>>>>>>>         call.offeringTimeOut="3600"
>>>>>>>         call.directedCallPickupMethod="legacy"
>>>>>>>         call.parkedCallRetrieveMethod="legacy"
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. subscribe to the presence of 700 on user speed dials
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4. Make sure you use the bridge, we had problems with the call
>>>>>>> unparking when we did not use the bridge for incoming calls from trunk
>>>>>>> provider
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *5. Our firewal does ALG, so we had to uncheck "Use public address
>>>>>>> for call setup" under Devices=>Gateways(choose the gw)=>ITSP Account, 
>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>> fixed our problem with the calls unparking, maybe your firewall is also
>>>>>>> doing some form of ALG*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Bryan Anderson <shadow...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I noticed some talk in a previous email "Call forward fails to
>>>>>>> external number" about the Adtran 900 series.  I have a couple of 
>>>>>>> comments
>>>>>>> and questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have a TA908e 2nd gen running AOS A5.02.00.E.  We currently have
>>>>>>> not noticed any issue with having an external caller forwarded to
>>>>>>> and external number.  cell => user for 30sec => external number.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What we have had issues with is presence monitoring of call
>>>>>>> parking.   We have a Polycom Soundpoint IP 650 with a sing side car
>>>>>>> that monitors park lines 6000 - 6003.  We can park calls no problem,
>>>>>>> and so far have not had trouble retrieving calls.  Our problem is that
>>>>>>> once the call gets retrieved from the call park the BLF never stops
>>>>>>> blinking.  I have to restart the Park/Presence servers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is with SipXecs 4.4.0.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thoughts and comments would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Bryan Anderson
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>  Ali S Ardestani
>>>>>>> Telephony Systems Engineer
>>>>>>> Private National Mortgage Acceptance Company (PennyMac)
>>>>>>> 6101 Condor Drive
>>>>>>> Moorpark, CA 93021
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Ali S Ardestani
>>>>>> Telephony Systems Engineer
>>>>>> Private National Mortgage Acceptance Company (PennyMac)
>>>>>> 6101 Condor Drive
>>>>>> Moorpark, CA 93021
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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