On 25 Oct 2007, at 7:11 PM, Xavier Cambar wrote: >> I disagree strongly, as I thought I explained clearly in my other >> mails. Again, those are *completely different* actions, as the items >> in the Notes menu *add a new note*, while the items in the Tools>Note >> Type submenu merely *change the tool mode*. Again, the note tool >> modes are *not* designed to add a single note, but to mass add notes >> of one type. And for that reason they should be separated, to avoid >> confusion about what does what the ones in the Tools menu change Tool >> Mode, the ones near the edit menu add notes). >> >> Moreover, I told you that changing a tool mode is something you do >> *once*, not every time you add a note. > > That is not what I meant, really. > To make it more simple, I just said that twice the same menu, with > the same items, is a waste of "menu space". > Even if I agreed they don't do the same, it wouldn't mean they > couldn't be reorganized and thought differently, for a different, > *maybe* better, user experience.
Again, they're not the same items. They are completely different items with completely different functionality. And you can use them both in the same situation with vastly different effects. > >>> In Note mode, there will still be that ability to mass-add notes, >>> changing the type with a selection within the Notes menu or the >>> corresponding keyboard shortcut. >> >> Again, and again, The items in the Notes menu *add a new note* of a >> specific type, also in note tool mode. This allows you to add, say, a >> text note while you're busy adding a whole bunch of, say, highlights. > This is right, and useful. > > We aren't meant to agree, as we have 2 different views of UI design. > But that's just my opinion, and I wanted to let you know it. > > To make it clear: > The Notes menu allows to choose which note type is to be added > ponctually. No, it is to actually *add* the note. That's a very different action! > The submenu "Tool Type" allows to choose the type of the note BEFORE > any addition. It determines the meaning of dragging the mouse. Most significantly, it's not meant for a *single* addition, but *multiple* addition. That's really the most significant difference in the use of these alternatives. > To me, It is all a matter of choice. > > That's how I see it! I may be right, I may be wrong... > But disagreement is great: it always helps, doesn't it? ;) > > Xavier > It's not a matter of choice. As you either add *a single note of any type*, or you put yourself into a mode of batch adding *a lot of notes of a single type* (and not adding any one). Those are vastly different actions. Collapsing those meanings would hugely reduce your capabilities, you would be forced to switch tool modes all the time, which is bad design. That's actually the main reason we added the items in Notes menu, initially as the sole way to add notes, and were reluctant to even add the note tool modes, because unless you want to add a lot of notes of one type it's inferior, in our opinion Christiaan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ _______________________________________________ Skim-app-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users
