Le 25 oct. 07 à 19:33, Christiaan Hofman a écrit : > > On 25 Oct 2007, at 7:11 PM, Xavier Cambar wrote: > >>> I disagree strongly, as I thought I explained clearly in my other >>> mails. Again, those are *completely different* actions, as the items >>> in the Notes menu *add a new note*, while the items in the >>> Tools>Note >>> Type submenu merely *change the tool mode*. Again, the note tool >>> modes are *not* designed to add a single note, but to mass add notes >>> of one type. And for that reason they should be separated, to avoid >>> confusion about what does what the ones in the Tools menu change >>> Tool >>> Mode, the ones near the edit menu add notes). >>> >>> Moreover, I told you that changing a tool mode is something you do >>> *once*, not every time you add a note. >> >> That is not what I meant, really. >> To make it more simple, I just said that twice the same menu, with >> the same items, is a waste of "menu space". >> Even if I agreed they don't do the same, it wouldn't mean they >> couldn't be reorganized and thought differently, for a different, >> *maybe* better, user experience. > > Again, they're not the same items. They are completely different > items with completely different functionality. And you can use them > both in the same situation with vastly different effects. > >> >>>> In Note mode, there will still be that ability to mass-add notes, >>>> changing the type with a selection within the Notes menu or the >>>> corresponding keyboard shortcut. >>> >>> Again, and again, The items in the Notes menu *add a new note* of a >>> specific type, also in note tool mode. This allows you to add, >>> say, a >>> text note while you're busy adding a whole bunch of, say, >>> highlights. >> This is right, and useful. >> >> We aren't meant to agree, as we have 2 different views of UI design. >> But that's just my opinion, and I wanted to let you know it. >> >> To make it clear: >> The Notes menu allows to choose which note type is to be added >> ponctually. > > No, it is to actually *add* the note. That's a very different action! > >> The submenu "Tool Type" allows to choose the type of the note BEFORE >> any addition. > > It determines the meaning of dragging the mouse. Most significantly, > it's not meant for a *single* addition, but *multiple* addition. > That's really the most significant difference in the use of these > alternatives. > >> To me, It is all a matter of choice. >> >> That's how I see it! I may be right, I may be wrong... >> But disagreement is great: it always helps, doesn't it? ;) >> >> Xavier >> > > It's not a matter of choice. As you either add *a single note of any > type*, or you put yourself into a mode of batch adding *a lot of > notes of a single type* (and not adding any one). Those are vastly > different actions. Collapsing those meanings would hugely reduce your > capabilities, you would be forced to switch tool modes all the time, > which is bad design. That's actually the main reason we added the > items in Notes menu, initially as the sole way to add notes, and were > reluctant to even add the note tool modes, because unless you want to > add a lot of notes of one type it's inferior, in our opinion
Alright, as you want. I said what I had to, I understood you, that's enough now. Oh my... Did you notice? "it's not a matter of choice" ... "in our opinion" isn't there anything wrong? Xavier ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ _______________________________________________ Skim-app-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users
