On 12/7/07, Adam M. Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 7, 2007, at 5:37 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote:
>
> > I'm using BibDesk myself to organize my PDFs. It has built-in support
> > for Skim notes, and accepts any sort of attached files (and in the
> > near future multiple files per item). In fact, Skim was developed as
> > a PDF viewer companion for BibDesk, so there's a good change for more
> > and better integration in the future. Disclaimer: I am a developer of
> > both programs.
> >
> > Christiaan
> >
>
> My first thought on reading the OP below was, "That's what BibDesk is
> for!" (even though it's not its primary purpose.) But as has been
> pointed out here before, BD really has excellent and advanced
> archiving and organizing capabilities for PDF's of papers in one's
> personal digital library.
>
> I mean, look, you'd use iTunes to organize your MP3's, even if you
> listen to them on your iPod: so you'd use BD to organize your
> references and associated papers, even if you don't use it to
> generated bibliographies in BT.
>
> Regarding Christiaan's disclaimer: clearly he is declaring a conflict
> of interest because of all the royalties and fees he stands to collect
> if more BD and Skim users are solicited. :-)
>
> -Adam G.
>
>
> > On 7 Dec 2007, at 11:24 AM, Michael Garton wrote:
> >
> >> Usage scenarios - how are you storing and organising your Skim files?
> >>
> >> I had been storing all my files in DevonThink Pro and have raised
> >> this issue on the forum there, but it seems there isn't a solution.
> >> DT will not import Skim notes or Skim pdf bundles files. I didn't
> >> intend to have Skim going head to head with DT, but that is my
> >> situation: I had to decide whether my marked up pdfs (and being able
> >> to amend and add to those notes i.e. Skim) were more important to me
> >> than the way they are archived (i.e. DT). Reluctantly, I am having to
> >> abandon DT.
> >>
> >> I suppose I am looking for a freeform database that will accept
> >> anything (not seek to scan content like DT does, which makes the
> >> software fussy about what file formats it can accept).
> >>
> >> So I have gone from being able to store, arrange and collate _all_ my
> >> pdfs but with restrictions on how I view/annotate them i.e. Preview
> >> and DT, to having a much more effective work environment for
> >> _individual_ files (Skim) but lost the ability to organise and
> >> retrieve the library.
> >>
> >> Help!
> >>
> >> Michael
> >
> >
> >

Indeed, as others have pointed out, BibDesk is an excellent PDF
organizer. There are other drawbacks with BibDesk... one, that it is
only a PDF organizer, hence, is not good at other bits and bobs you
might throw at it... for example, at one point I had the bright idea
of attaching text files in it thinking I would save it some work by
not having to slog through PDFs, but that didn't do any good. Second,
I am still struggling with being able to take data out of BD for
citations in a seamless manner given my preferred workflow which does
not involve anything to do with TeX. There are many options, but none
of them are very good thus far. That said, in all likelihood
DevonThink also probably can't do that.

If you still don't want BibDesk, look at Punakea. It is also a very
nice, freeform files organizer. It basically allows you to take any
file and apply any number of tags to it. Then you can search using
those tags. It is a nice, attractive program and is also free.

Puneet.

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