On 12 May 2009, at 11:37 PM, Alex Montgomery wrote:

>
> On 2009-05-12, at 2:21 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote:
>
>>
>> On 12 May 2009, at 7:33 PM, Alex Montgomery wrote:
>> [snip]
>
>>> 2)when the file is double-clicked in Spotlight, Skim opens up the  
>>> PDF
>>> and searches the *PDF text* for the Spotlight search term, not the
>>> *Annotations* for the search term, whereas the intended behavior
>>> would
>>> be to search in the domain that the text was discovered (in this
>>> case,
>>> the annotations). Can this be fixed, or is this impossible to do?
>>
>> It is simply not known whether Spotlight matched information from the
>> PDF or the notes. So what's the 'intended' behavior is simply not  
>> know
>> (if Skim would use the Notes search field instead, you'd complain  
>> when
>> you used spotlight to find some text in the PDF, wouldn't you?) So
>> neither approach would be 100% right, but the current behavior would
>> have the largest chance to get it right.
>
> Well, that's true if a .pdfd is clicked, since Spotlight would in that
> case be searching both the .pdf and .skim files. But if a .skim file
> comes up with a hit in the Finder, then Spotlight has matched
> information from the notes, not the PDF, so wouldn't it make sense if
> Spotlight passes a .skim file and a search term to Skim to have it
> search the Notes field instead of the PDF?
>
> Thanks,
> -AHM
>

No, because at that point we don't know that we opened a .skim file,  
as it's really opening a PDF file. So it could have been that you've  
searched a PDF file in Spotlight (using the system's importer) and  
then opened it in Skim. We can't tell the difference at the point that  
the search field is filled.

Christiaan

>>
>>> Last, is there any application other than BibDesk (well, and
>>> Spotlight) that allows for searching of Skim notes content? I note
>>> that EagleFiler and DevonThink have some rudimentary support, but
>>> neither seems to search the content of the notes.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> -AHM
>>
>> I use neither, but I've certainly read that EagleFiler uses their own
>> importers for searching PDF, which includes Skim Notes.
>>
>> Christiaan
>>
>>> On 2009-05-12, at 10:19 AM, Bill Mohler wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think, from my experience, that Christiann's suggestion of adding
>>>> text-tags (e.g. [xyz] ) to the text of the note is the best
>>>> approach.
>>>> You can add them to highlight and other "quoting" notes as well as
>>>> your own notes.
>>>>
>>>>> On 12 May 2009, at 6:54 PM, Alex Montgomery wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Folks-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been thinking about and discussing with some of my  
>>>>>> colleagues
>>>>>> different workflows that involve Skim and/or BibDesk. One of them
>>>>>> asked if annotations could be tagged or have any other type of
>>>>>> metadata associated with them; for example, if one is going
>>>>>> through
>>>>>> documents looking for quotes from a particular person, each quote
>>>>>> could be highlighted and tagged. Then a file (or multiple files,
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> doing this from BibDesk) could be searched for that particular  
>>>>>> tag
>>>>>> separate from the content of the actual highlighting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No, there's no support for annotation tags possible. See the
>>>>> various
>>>>> closed RFEs.
>>>>>
>>>>>> It occurred to me that there is already some metadata associated
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> annotations (color, line width, etc.), so this might be an easily
>>>>>> extensible property of skim notes. Or it might be a pain to
>>>>>> implement,
>>>>>> or impossible, or not worth it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Impossible, as we won't diverge any more from the PDF specs.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thoughts? Are there suggestions for ways this could be done  
>>>>>> within
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> existing program that I'm entirely unaware of?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> -AHM
>>>>>
>>>>> No, unless you count adding some text to the text associated to a
>>>>> note
>>>>> and using the search field.
>>>>>
>>>>> Christiaan
>>>>>
>
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