On May 16, 2009, at 9:23 AM, Olivier Verdier wrote:

>>
>
> I already said that this discussion is really irrelevant, because it  
> cannot be reasonably done. Switching apps in presentation modes  
> gives unacceptable problems. Period.
>
>
> I see. Would you mind sharing your knowledge about why it cannot be  
> reasonably done? And what precisely were the problems caused by  
> switching apps before version 1.2.2? I have never experienced any  
> problem at all with skim and app switching myself...
>
> For the moment I will just try to compile a pre-1.2.2 version and  
> use that instead of the last version. I really cannot use Skim in  
> its present state for my teaching.
>
> Thank you,
>
> == Olivier
>
>
>


Olivier, just a suggestion for you that works for me:

You may just want to try a customized Full Screen mode instead of  
Presentation mode.

I use Full Screen mode instead of presentation mode for all my  
presentations. In my opinion it has a number of advantages and only  
some tiny drawbacks:

-you can switch applications; a quick Expose is also wonderful from  
this mode

- you have much more flexibility in terms of page layout (such as  
setting things to Continuous)

-you can invoke tools (select, notes etc.) if you want them (easy to  
prevent them too)

-you can sneak peak at your menu bar by .taking the cursor up, to  
check time, battery life, etc.

-you can change the color of the background (to a dark black, as in  
presentation mode) in the preferences.

-I find navigation more intuitive, since it is the same as in your  
regular use. Indeed, all key bindings work here.

The only drawback I see is that the sidebars panels are there. But if  
you reduce them, you can make them small and prevent them from  
swinging open. That's what I do. They look like a little frame on the  
side and nobody notices them.

I guess another advantage of Presentation mode, over Full Screen, is  
precisely that it is fool proofed: you can't do much there, so not  
much can go wrong either. But that seems more relevant for a situation  
where you lend your computer to someone else for a presentation than  
for an experienced user with their own setup. So this advantage is  
completely irrelevant for me.

The gains outweight the losses in my view. So for a long time I have  
used Full Screen mode to present at seminars and in lectures.

Hope this helps. Cheers

-Ivan 

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