On Aug 13, 2010, at 4:38, Michael Singer wrote: > Is SkimCombine restricted to 10.6? It wouldn't open for me in 10.5. >
Apparently. Christiaan >> On Aug 11, 2010, at 5:04, Carl Lee wrote: >> >>> Christiaan, >>> >>> I went with the alternative method of exporting as embedded PDF and it >>> works for the most part so I am grateful. >>> >>> A few observations to consider for the developer in charge of "Convert >>> Notes..." in future releases of Skim: >>> - highlights are converted perfectly >>> - position/size of text stickies are perfect, but the default note color is >>> black (probably the only flaw that makes this solution impractical for >>> appending PDFs over time) :( >> >> I don't see this, the text color is retained (and we really do so explicitly >> in both steps). So if you lost that information it's somewhere in the >> intermediate steps (perhaps merging) where we're not involved. It is also >> related to the fact that Apple's PDFKit has some bugs when it comes to >> saving annotations (though they won't admit it's a bug, even though they do >> not preserve data). >> >>> - anchored notes are shifted somewhat from their original position >>> (probably due to the embedding process, causing the anchors to be larger >>> when viewed in Preview), but icon choice (ie. question mark, filled >>> document) is preserved---this may cause anchors to drift too far to be >>> useful as I continue to append more and more PDFs over time >> >> I said that anchored notes won't be preserved perfectly, because the Skim >> anchored notes do not exist in PDF, they're converted to Text annotations, >> which are somewhat different. >> >>> - lastly, boxes and circles have the correct color, but they often show up >>> as dotted-lines (i.e. right-click>Note Line...>Dash Pattern: 3 2, but the >>> original Dash Pattern is blank) >>> >> >> I don't know where the dash pattern comes from, some intermediate step must >> have introduced it, we certainly didn't. As for switching to dashed line >> style, that's probably due to an annoying change Apple made where they >> ovverride what we tell them. I'll have that part fixed. >> >> Christiaan >> >>> For those of you who want to know how I did this: >>> - Using "Combine PDFs" still throws away the annotations, so you have to >>> open each source PDF in Preview, then merge with a specific kind of drag >>> and drop (see TLJ's suggestion in >>> http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=780455) and then save. >>> - File>Convert Notes... >>> >>> The first suggestion you had definitely sounds more advanced and will >>> probably exactly yield the desired results if there is a way to directly >>> modify the annotation page numbers---maybe I'll give it a go some time >>> later. >>> >>> Thanks again, >>> >>> -Bill >>> >>> From: Christiaan Hofman <[email protected]> >>> To: For general discussion about using Skim >>> <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 1:47:52 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] Preserve annotations after merging two >>> annotated PDFs? >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 20:08, Carl Lee wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Christiaan, >>>> >>>> I tried this and both annotations appear, but both source 1 and 2's >>>> annotations 'collide' on the same pages in the merged PDF since the >>>> annotations retain the same page numbers they had when they were created >>>> in source (i.e. let's say that source 2 has highlighted text on its page >>>> 1---on the merged PDF, the highlights for this text appear on its page 1 >>>> but the text isn't in the highlights since it appears after the last page >>>> of source 1 on the merged PDF). >>>> >>>> So I think that the solution is this: can I directly modify the Skim Note >>>> files to change the page numbers for each annotation to my liking? When I >>>> open it in a text editor, I mostly see gibberish but there are certain >>>> intelligible characters such text from my annotation and what appear to be >>>> pixel coordinates---I couldn't find page numbers though... >>>> >>>> Thanks again, >>>> >>>> -Bill >>>> >>> >>> Ah, I didn't realize that, but you're right, the page numbers for the >>> second part won't get shifted. And no, you can't easily edit the file, it's >>> some binary archive. I guess you'd need to write a Cocoa program to do that >>> (you can convert it to XML using plutil, but good luck finding the actual >>> page numbers in there). >>> >>> Perhaps an alternative is to export the PDFs with embedded notes, merge >>> those, and then run File > Convert NotesŠ on the combined PDF. You may lose >>> a bit of data when you have anchored notes, but most will come through OK. >>> >>> Christiaan >>> >>>> From: Christiaan Hofman <[email protected]> >>>> To: For general discussion about using Skim >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 2:13:34 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] Preserve annotations after merging two >>>> annotated PDFs? >>>> >>>> Before merging, export the skim notes for the two files to separate files >>>> (File > ExportŠ). After merging, read them in (File > Read NotesŠ), make >>>> sure you uncheck "Replace existing notes" the second time). >>>> >>>> Christiaan >>>> >>>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:04, Carl Lee wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi everyone (developers too?), >>>>> >>>>> I have two Skim-annotated PDFs (sources 1 and 2) which I want to merge >>>>> into one PDF in that order (I use CombinePDFs to do the merging since >>>>> Skim cannot do this for me). Problem is, when I do this, the annotations >>>>> for both source PDFs are gone in the merged PDF. >>>>> >>>>> Q: Is there a way to *keep* the annotations after merging? >>>>> >>>>> If there is no elegant solution, here's a kludge that I hope to carry to >>>>> completion: >>>>> I have made some progress in that I *can* extract my annotations when I >>>>> export as "Skim Notes" and save them onto the merged PDF by using "File > >>>>> Read Notes...", but the page numbers for my annotations in the merged PDF >>>>> are the same as they were in source---so that source 2 annotations are >>>>> not in the correct location in the merged PDF. What I want to do is >>>>> "shift" ALL the page numbers of source 2's annotations by an integer of >>>>> my choosing (i.e. so that they correctly correspond to the "new" page >>>>> numbers where source 2 resides in the merged PDF) >>>>> >>>>> Please let me know if you have any ideas to make this work---this would >>>>> be great as I often find myself OCR scanning books one chapter at a time >>>>> just so I can annotate them in Skim! >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> -Bill >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by >>>> >>>> Make an app they can't live without >>>> Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skim-app-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by >>> >>> Make an app they can't live without >>> Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skim-app-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> This SF.net email is sponsored by >> >> Make an app they can't live without >> Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Skim-app-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net email is sponsored by > > Make an app they can't live without > Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge > http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Skim-app-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users
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