On Aug 13, 2010, at 10:05, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > > On Aug 13, 2010, at 4:38, Michael Singer wrote: > >> Is SkimCombine restricted to 10.6? It wouldn't open for me in 10.5. >> > > Apparently. > > Christiaan >
try again Christiaan >>> On Aug 11, 2010, at 5:04, Carl Lee wrote: >>> >>>> Christiaan, >>>> >>>> I went with the alternative method of exporting as embedded PDF and it >>>> works for the most part so I am grateful. >>>> >>>> A few observations to consider for the developer in charge of "Convert >>>> Notes..." in future releases of Skim: >>>> - highlights are converted perfectly >>>> - position/size of text stickies are perfect, but the default note color >>>> is black (probably the only flaw that makes this solution impractical for >>>> appending PDFs over time) :( >>> >>> I don't see this, the text color is retained (and we really do so >>> explicitly in both steps). So if you lost that information it's somewhere >>> in the intermediate steps (perhaps merging) where we're not involved. It is >>> also related to the fact that Apple's PDFKit has some bugs when it comes to >>> saving annotations (though they won't admit it's a bug, even though they do >>> not preserve data). >>> >>>> - anchored notes are shifted somewhat from their original position >>>> (probably due to the embedding process, causing the anchors to be larger >>>> when viewed in Preview), but icon choice (ie. question mark, filled >>>> document) is preserved---this may cause anchors to drift too far to be >>>> useful as I continue to append more and more PDFs over time >>> >>> I said that anchored notes won't be preserved perfectly, because the Skim >>> anchored notes do not exist in PDF, they're converted to Text annotations, >>> which are somewhat different. >>> >>>> - lastly, boxes and circles have the correct color, but they often show up >>>> as dotted-lines (i.e. right-click>Note Line...>Dash Pattern: 3 2, but the >>>> original Dash Pattern is blank) >>>> >>> >>> I don't know where the dash pattern comes from, some intermediate step must >>> have introduced it, we certainly didn't. As for switching to dashed line >>> style, that's probably due to an annoying change Apple made where they >>> ovverride what we tell them. I'll have that part fixed. >>> >>> Christiaan >>> >>>> For those of you who want to know how I did this: >>>> - Using "Combine PDFs" still throws away the annotations, so you have to >>>> open each source PDF in Preview, then merge with a specific kind of drag >>>> and drop (see TLJ's suggestion in >>>> http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=780455) and then save. >>>> - File>Convert Notes... >>>> >>>> The first suggestion you had definitely sounds more advanced and will >>>> probably exactly yield the desired results if there is a way to directly >>>> modify the annotation page numbers---maybe I'll give it a go some time >>>> later. >>>> >>>> Thanks again, >>>> >>>> -Bill >>>> >>>> From: Christiaan Hofman <[email protected]> >>>> To: For general discussion about using Skim >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 1:47:52 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] Preserve annotations after merging two >>>> annotated PDFs? >>>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 20:08, Carl Lee wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Christiaan, >>>>> >>>>> I tried this and both annotations appear, but both source 1 and 2's >>>>> annotations 'collide' on the same pages in the merged PDF since the >>>>> annotations retain the same page numbers they had when they were created >>>>> in source (i.e. let's say that source 2 has highlighted text on its page >>>>> 1---on the merged PDF, the highlights for this text appear on its page 1 >>>>> but the text isn't in the highlights since it appears after the last page >>>>> of source 1 on the merged PDF). >>>>> >>>>> So I think that the solution is this: can I directly modify the Skim Note >>>>> files to change the page numbers for each annotation to my liking? When >>>>> I open it in a text editor, I mostly see gibberish but there are certain >>>>> intelligible characters such text from my annotation and what appear to >>>>> be pixel coordinates---I couldn't find page numbers though... >>>>> >>>>> Thanks again, >>>>> >>>>> -Bill >>>>> >>>> >>>> Ah, I didn't realize that, but you're right, the page numbers for the >>>> second part won't get shifted. And no, you can't easily edit the file, >>>> it's some binary archive. I guess you'd need to write a Cocoa program to >>>> do that (you can convert it to XML using plutil, but good luck finding the >>>> actual page numbers in there). >>>> >>>> Perhaps an alternative is to export the PDFs with embedded notes, merge >>>> those, and then run File > Convert NotesŠ on the combined PDF. You may >>>> lose a bit of data when you have anchored notes, but most will come >>>> through OK. >>>> >>>> Christiaan >>>> >>>>> From: Christiaan Hofman <[email protected]> >>>>> To: For general discussion about using Skim >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 2:13:34 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] Preserve annotations after merging two >>>>> annotated PDFs? >>>>> >>>>> Before merging, export the skim notes for the two files to separate files >>>>> (File > ExportŠ). After merging, read them in (File > Read NotesŠ), make >>>>> sure you uncheck "Replace existing notes" the second time). >>>>> >>>>> Christiaan >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:04, Carl Lee wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi everyone (developers too?), >>>>>> >>>>>> I have two Skim-annotated PDFs (sources 1 and 2) which I want to merge >>>>>> into one PDF in that order (I use CombinePDFs to do the merging since >>>>>> Skim cannot do this for me). Problem is, when I do this, the >>>>>> annotations for both source PDFs are gone in the merged PDF. >>>>>> >>>>>> Q: Is there a way to *keep* the annotations after merging? >>>>>> >>>>>> If there is no elegant solution, here's a kludge that I hope to carry to >>>>>> completion: >>>>>> I have made some progress in that I *can* extract my annotations when I >>>>>> export as "Skim Notes" and save them onto the merged PDF by using "File >>>>>> > Read Notes...", but the page numbers for my annotations in the merged >>>>>> PDF are the same as they were in source---so that source 2 annotations >>>>>> are not in the correct location in the merged PDF. What I want to do is >>>>>> "shift" ALL the page numbers of source 2's annotations by an integer of >>>>>> my choosing (i.e. so that they correctly correspond to the "new" page >>>>>> numbers where source 2 resides in the merged PDF) >>>>>> >>>>>> Please let me know if you have any ideas to make this work---this would >>>>>> be great as I often find myself OCR scanning books one chapter at a time >>>>>> just so I can annotate them in Skim! >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> -Bill >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by >>>>> >>>>> Make an app they can't live without >>>>> Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge >>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skim-app-users mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by >>>> >>>> Make an app they can't live without >>>> Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skim-app-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by >>> >>> Make an app they can't live without >>> Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skim-app-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> This SF.net email is sponsored by >> >> Make an app they can't live without >> Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Skim-app-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users >
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