On Jan 5, 2011, at 22:08, Thomas Schneider wrote:

> I am using Skim to watch a PDF using the refresh mechanism.  Another
> program creates the PDF and replaces it and Skim shows the changes so
> I don't have to do any mousing.  (Automation is provided by my
> atchange program, http://alum.mit.edu/www/toms/atchange.html.)  This
> works beautifully.  However, I often have documents that are entirely
> in landscape mode, and for these I use the Rotate button in the tools
> to switch the page I'm looking at.  Upon refresh Skim shows the same
> page but the rotation is lost every time.  It seems to me that the
> state of simultaneous rotation of ALL of the pages is only 2 bits
> since there are 4 possible orientations.  

"Seems" is the keyword, I already told you it's not correct. Now if you don't 
want to believe me...

> Skim keeps an integer (the
> current page) and a second integer should not be much trouble to
> maintain too.  Then the pages would transparently remain rotated upon
> refresh.
> 
> I reported this as a bug but Christiaan Hofman repeatedly closed it
> without any explanation,

No, the problem is that you won't accept my explanation (as you've confirmed 
here). 

> claiming that it would take N bits for N
> pages and that it would be very expensive.  That can't be right
> because Skim remembers the page it was on already.  

I am not saying that the information is expensive. My point is that using this 
information is expensive.

> Is there someone
> on this list who is willing to hold a reasonable conversation about
> the issue?  Are there other developers for this beautiful software?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Tom

Moreover, this is NOT a bug. It's the way the program behaves. For good 
reasons. It also does exactly what you ask it to do: reload the data from disk 
(page rotation is part of the PDF data).

A bug report list is NOT a place for discussion. So you should not expect me to 
use it for discussion, especially if it is not even about a bug. And adding 
lots of duplicate bug reports does NOT help your case, quite to the contrary.

Moreover, I've said before, I'm not going into lengthy and frustrating 
back-and-forths anymore, where I have to repeat arguments that are subsequently 
ignored, and the conclusion has already been drawn.

Christiaan




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