On Apr 14, 2015, at 18:19, Marc H. Scholl wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 18:00h, Christiaan Hofman <[email protected]> wrote
> (with possible deletions):
>>
>> On Apr 14, 2015, at 16:52, Marc H. Scholl wrote:
>>
>>> … same for me: OSX 10.10.3, Skim 1.4.11, and the problem is PageUp &
>>> PageDown Keys in single page mode (or in presentation mode, which is what
>>> I’m actually using) are reversed — and space bar moves UP (=backwards,
>>> towards smaller page numbers) in the file :-((
>>>
>>
>> And what about arrow up/down (when you scrolled all the way down/up in
>> single page mode), does that work?
>
> ArrowUp and ArrowDown DO work as expected, no matter whether at one end of
> the file or in the middle.
>
So I guess they fixed this only for ArrowUp/ArrowDown, but not for
PageUp/PageDown. We'll have to wait for 10.10.4 to (hopefully) fully fix this.
I have notified Apple about this.
I don't want to reinsert the workaround, because this is Apple's bug.
Workarounds then can only create new problems after Apple has fixed the bug. I
still don't understand why the Preview developers haven't told the PDFKit
developers about their bug.
Christiaan
>>
>>> And no, Apple’s Preview.app does NOT exhibit the same behavior.
>>>
>>
>> Preview must have a workaround for this bug, because this is an event
>> handled by PDFKit, not by our custom code. This is also what tells me that
>> Apple must have known about this bug even before 10.10.0 came out.
>>
>>> And no, it was NOT any different before today’s Skim update.
>>>
>>> Very annoying...
>>> —Marc
>>>
>>
>> You mean it had the same problem in 1.4.10? That should be impossible. In
>> 1.4.10 there was a (partial) workaround for this bug. I removed that because
>> Apple assured me they had it fixed, and the workaround did not work all the
>> time (and moreover made it impossible for an actual Apple fix to work). That
>> is even more annoying.
>
> Oops, sorry for the confusion, Christiaan!
>
> 1.4.10 did NOT show the same behavior (i.e., the direction was CORRECT -
> provided Skim-1.4.10 did react to ArrowUp/Down or PageUp/Down at all — for
> me, it often did not react to one of those at all. THAT was the problem with
> 1.4.10.)
>
> Now, 1.4.11 does (up to now, at least) always react to those keys, only that
> the direction is wrong for the PageUp/Down and the Space keys…
>
> Best
> —Marc
>
>>
>> Christiaan
>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 16:29h, Jan Jakob Bornheim <[email protected]>
>>> wrote (with possible deletions):
>>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Christiaan Hofman <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 14, 2015, at 16:13, Richard Stanton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: "Justin C. Walker" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2015, at 19:58 , clark richards wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tried to follow the submit bug link, but it 404'd.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just installed the update to version 1.4.11 (85), and now the
>>>>>>> pgup/pgdown
>>>>>>> keys are reversed when in either Single Page or Two Pages mode (i.e.
>>>>>>> non-continuous).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> System is 10.10.2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is known, and has been an issue since 10.10 was introduced. It
>>>>>> appears to have been fixed in 10.10.3 (from a quick test or two).
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a problem for me under 10.10.3.
>>>>
>>>> Really? Apple told me they fixed it in 10.10.3. Are you using the latest
>>>> Skim 1.4.11?
>>>>
>>>> Christiaan
>>>>
>>>> It is not working for me either (Skim: Version 1.4.11 (85), Mac OS X:
>>>> 10.10.3 (14D131)). I thought the problem came back with 1.4.11, but I
>>>> might be mistaken about that (there is definite temporal coincidence, I
>>>> just don't remember whether I used single page mode before upgrading to
>>>> 1.4.11).
>>>>
>>>> JJ
>>>>
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