Jim, with all true respect, I think the fact that the sounds sound alike
to you are more a testimony to your hearing difficulties (something to
which I can most definitely relate) than anything else. While there are
similarities in the sounds, they do sound distinct from each other. I
agree that they're rather silly, and prefer the classic sounds.

Bruce
On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 20:48:52 -0800, "jim grimsby Jr."
<jimgrims at pacbell.net> said:
> Hi item 7 the sound skeem that skype uses is useless I mean all these
> sound
> files that sound the same.  Also what do these sounds have to do with
> getting a file user goes on line etc.  where as a person walking in to a
> room and a person leaving a room gives you an idea that they are
> available
> on line or leaving not available off line.  The sound of a file cavenent
> opening oh might give me the idea some one is sending a file verses some
> meaningless space age sound.   
> That is 7 as for item 4 doug winamp foobar Miranda a number of other
> programs use this approach and it just is good design.  The hot keys
> should
> be defined as available within skype and should show up in the menu as
> well
> as they do in foobar.  I guess you are not going to agree with me on this
> one but it just makes good scence.  I mean if you are going to have full
> access to a program having a program with keyboard commands that can be
> used
> threw the hole program just as the tool bar icons can just makes scence.
> Also this is a feature that would make every sighted power users life
> real
> useful.  
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: skypeenglish-bounces at emissives.com
> [mailto:skypeenglish-bounces at emissives.com] On Behalf Of Doug Lee
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 10:58 AM
> To: skype english list
> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] on access and skype again
> 
> I'm carrying this over from the marrie.org days because I didn't get
> an answer sent out before we moved.
> 
> Jim, I agree with all but item 4 below.  Item 4 has been discussed
> before, and I think the complexity is not outweighed by the
> convenience.  I still can't reproduce item 1 though, and I don't
> really understand what you want in item 7.  The rest should be
> forwarded to Skype directly for action.  I'm forwarding the help
> balloon and tab-control-in-tab-order suggestions to them myself.
> 
> On Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 04:23:23AM -0800, jim grimsby Jr. wrote:
> Ok ok it is time for me to  rant and for doug to sigh and say oh god jim
> is
> at it again.  
> Things that need to be done.  
> 1.  Take the links for events out or make it where when you use them
> skype
> does not crash.  I can reproduce this on every system I got.  
> 2.  put the tab controls in the tab order. 
> 3.  a focusable tool bar in the skype chat so one can use the features of
> the tool bar in the chat window.  This is mainly for thoughs who are not
> using jaws.
>  4. More hot keys and the option to have them active when the program has
> focus or global.
> 5.  a check box in the installer program to turn on accessibility 
> features.
> I mean having them in the menu is all well and good but if you can't
> access
> the menu in the first place to turn them on tell they are turned on does
> not
> do much good yes?  
> 6.  a new accessability option to use standard help balloons for alerts
> and
> notafacations.  
> This will allow all screen reader to inform you what is going on no more
> need for skype watch.
> 7.  while not a major access issue but sound that kind of give you the
> user
> an idea of what is going on!  Sounds that maybe the user can figure out
> which one is wich.  
> My thoughts for what they are worth.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: skypeenglish-bounces at marrie.org
> [mailto:skypeenglish-bounces at marrie.org] On Behalf Of Doug Lee
> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 3:30 AM
> To: skype english list
> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] What is the latest accessible version of
> Skype?
> 
> Be sure to check the two options in the Accessibility submenu of the
> View menu before deciding whether Skype 3.6 is accessible. <grin>
> 
> The scripts help, mostly with chats I suppose, but are not absolutely
> essential for using Skype 3.6.  The Skype team has done a lot of work
> to make things accessible to users of all screen readers, not just
> JAWS.
> 
> On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 09:19:41PM -0800, George Cassell wrote:
> 
>    What is the latest accessible version of Skype, and are scripts
>    required or even recommended for it?
> 
> 
> 
>    I currently have Skype version 3.6.0.216 installed on my system, and
>    find it to be only marginally accessible.
> 
> 
> 
>    -- George
> 
> thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access the scripts go to 
> http://www.dlee.org/skype/
> to access the tutorials and more visit 
> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
> Thanks
> 
> Skypeenglish mailing list
> Skypeenglish at marrie.org
> http://marrie.org/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_marrie.org
> 
> 
> -- 
> Doug Lee                 dgl at dlee.org        
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> http://www.ssbbartgroup.com
> "The most exhausting thing in life is being insincere."
>         - Anne Morrow Lindbergh {American Author}
> 
> thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access the scripts go to 
> http://www.dlee.org/skype/
> to access the tutorials and more visit 
> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
> Thanks
> 
> Skypeenglish mailing list
> Skypeenglish at marrie.org
> http://marrie.org/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_marrie.org
> 
> 
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> 
> thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access the scripts go to 
> http://www.dlee.org/skype/
> to access the tutorials and more visit 
> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
> Thanks
> 
> Skypeenglish mailing list
> Skypeenglish at marrie.org
> http://marrie.org/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_marrie.org
> 
> -- 
> Doug Lee                 dgl at dlee.org        
> SSB BART Group           doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com
> http://www.ssbbartgroup.com
> "You must let me try, for a true soldier does not admit defeat before
> the battle."
> --Helen Keller (in a letter to the president of Radcliffe College)
> 
> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for the
> latest version of skype go to 
> http://www.dlee.org/skype
> To access tutorials and other goodies go to
> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
> thanks and have a wonderful day.
> 
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> 
> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for the
> latest version of skype go to 
> http://www.dlee.org/skype
> To access tutorials and other goodies go to
> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
> thanks and have a wonderful day.
> 
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