Hi gordon, thanks for that, all now done!
Alistair ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordan Radic" <[email protected]> To: "screen access software with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Dictionary file > Hi! > No, it's not. > Run Start - Programs - Jaws - Explore Jaws - Explore my settings and paste > it here. That's totally different folder from which you tried to paste > file into. > If you have more than one Jaws versions, pay attention to version number. > > > S postovanjem > > Gordan Radic > ______________________ > MSN: zarakijel at gmail.com > http://zarakijel.4shared.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ali" <alistair.kelly at ntlworld.com> > To: "screen access software with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com> > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:20 AM > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Dictionary file > > >> HI! >> >> Could someone tell me if I'm on the right track with this >> dictionary?using jaws 10, skype 3.8 and revision 653 I put the dictionary >> file into: >> >> C:\programmefiles\freedomscientific \jajjaws runtime\settings\enu >> >> is this the correct folder? if so I'm having no luck with the dictionary >> file, all the emoticons just keep giving a variety of punctuation marks >> without any text description. Am I doing something wrong! >> >> Best wishes >> >> Alistair >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Doug Lee" <dgl at dlee.org> >> To: "screen access software with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:54 PM >> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Dictionary file >> >> >>> Actually, you're right, because JAWS and the scripts usually use MSAA >>> to get chat and mood text nowadays, and those will contain the text >>> representations, not the graphics. The difference will only occur if >>> you use the JAWS cursor or if JAWS has to rely on screen text for some >>> reason. >>> >>> Sorry, I should have realized this earlier. This is what happens when >>> I fire off a quick reply while working on something else I guess. :) >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 05:34:53PM +0200, Kostadin Kolev wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> As far as I can test, there is no difference if the graphical emoticons >>>> are turned on or off. My version of Skype (v3.8) is set to bulgarian >>>> language. When I use the translated in bulgarian "skype.jdf" file, JAWS >>>> speaks the emoticons in bulgarian, as they are written in the >>>> dictionary >>>> file (disregard of the tooltip info for the icons in the chat window). >>>> When I tested the dictionary from Doug's site, JAWS speaks the >>>> emoticons >>>> as they are described in that file. So, I guess that no matter if >>>> emoticons are turned on or off, the text and punctuation symbols >>>> representing those icons are displayed "internally" and JAWS can read >>>> them without problems. And that applies to mood messages too. Maybe for >>>> that to work properly, the accessibility options in Skype should be >>>> turned on, as mine are. >>>> >>>> >>>> Best wishes! >>>> Kostadin Kolev >>>> >>>> Doug Lee wrote: >>>>> JAWS should translate the text representations, such as a colon and a >>>>> right paren, into names, if you have the dictionary loaded, regardless >>>>> of whether you have Skype set to use graphical emoticons. However, my >>>>> understanding is that if you have graphical emoticons enabled in >>>>> Skype, the graphics will replace the text representations in most >>>>> places, thus effectively preventing the dictionary of names from being >>>>> used. I have not tested this to see just where the graphics appear >>>>> versus where you still see text; I'll leave that to someone who wants >>>>> to mess with it. :-) >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 03:57:48PM +0200, Kostadin Kolev wrote: >>>>>> Hello, Doug, >>>>>> >>>>>> Are you saying that if graphical emoticons are turned on, JAWS can't >>>>>> speak their text representation? Mine are turned on and JAWS speaks >>>>>> the text representation correctly, even with the dictionary file >>>>>> from your site. I actually use another dictionary file, witch was >>>>>> translated in bulgarian. It's not as complete as that provided by >>>>>> Gordan, but it serves us bulgarian users very well. >>>>>> >>>>>> P.S.: Sorry for misspelling your name in my previous letter. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best wishes! >>>>>> Kostadin Kolev >>>>>> >>>>>> Doug Lee wrote: >>>>>>> Unchecking the emoticon option makes Skype show text strings instead >>>>>>> of graphical icons for emoticons in chat and mood text. The >>>>>>> dictionary file Gordan put together relies on those text strings; >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> can't so easily, and without system dependencies, create a system >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> translating the graphical icons. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 02:43:35PM +0200, Kostadin Kolev wrote: >>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gianfranco, yes, those terms mean the same thing. By default they >>>>>>>> are checked. I don't know if we should uncheck them or not. Mine >>>>>>>> are checked and also the option below them "and animate them" is >>>>>>>> checked. I don't recall to have some problems with those 2 >>>>>>>> options checked. But on Duck's site, it says to uncheck them for >>>>>>>> better compatibility with JAWS. >>>>>>>> Duck, why do we have to uncheck them? What is the difference if >>>>>>>> we do and if we don't? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> P.S.: The right word is "emoticons" and not "emonicons", just for >>>>>>>> clarity. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best wishes! >>>>>>>> Kostadin Kolev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gianfranco Di Cosmo wrote: >>>>>>>>> Question for clerification: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The graphics emonicons, is it also called, animated emonicons? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In the options it says, animated emonicons checked. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do we uncheck it? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts >>>>>>>>> for the latest version of skype go to >>>>>>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>>>>>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>>>>>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>>>>>>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>>>>>>>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>>>>>>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts >>>>>>>> for the latest version of skype go to >>>>>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>>>>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>>>>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>>>>>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>>>>>>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>>>>>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>>>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >>>>>> the latest version of skype go to >>>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>>>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>>>>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>>>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >>>> the latest version of skype go to >>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>> >>> -- >>> Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org http://www.dlee.org >>> SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com >>> http://www.ssbbartgroup.com >>> "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's >>> character, give him power." -Abraham Lincoln >>> >>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >>> latest version of skype go to >>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG. >>> Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.14/1920 - Release Date: >>> 27/01/2009 18:15 >>> >>> >> >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >> latest version of skype go to >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the > latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > To access tutorials and other goodies go to > http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > Skypeenglish at emissives.com > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.15/1924 - > Release Date: 29/01/2009 17:57 > >
