I would like to agree with you, Bruce. I actually shouts at blind people nagging "but it's different!" (imagine a whiny little voice)
Yes, sometimes different means inaccessible, but not all the time. Regards, Brandt Steenkamp Tel: (H) +27 (0) 35 550 0703 (M) +27 (0) 84 903 9899 Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN/Windows Live messenger: brandt at kwagga.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" <[email protected]> To: "screen access software with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Skype Concerns > It is also incumbent on us to move with the times. Too often, blind > people equate "accessibility" with "the same as it's always been". New > proceedure, immediately people start screaming that something is not > accessible. We want things to stay as they were, but life doesn't work > that way, computers don't work that way, Skype doesn't work that way. It > makes us look bad if we greet change with howls of "inaccessible", when > what we really mean is "different". > > Bruce > > > On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:59:05 -0500, "Lino Morales" <lino0876 at gmail.com> > said: >> I agree with you Jack but we can also make a difference by contacting >> Skype's development team via the Gira bug report forms and let them know >> of >> our concerns. I'm sure you saw my message a few days ago and I still >> stand >> on that. It is up to us the blind consumer to let the Microsoft's, IBM >> etc >> etc companies know what we want and need for accessibility. Even though >> what >> we say might go out one ear and out the other, we can still try. Long >> live >> Skype! Your bro in Christ, >> Lino Morales and Louie Lab >> Email and Windows Live Messenger: >> lino.morales at lljfm.net >> For Blind Christian Men, visit: >> http://morales-family.lljfm.net/mailman/listinfo/blindmen4christ_morales-family >> to subscribe to Blind Men For Christ. >> And check out our site at: >> www.lljfm.net >> where you'll find our blog and other links. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jack" <jlowe27 at neo.rr.com> >> To: "screen access software with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com> >> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:14 AM >> Subject: [Skypeenglish] Skype Concerns >> >> >> When it comes to computers and the internet, I'm pretty computer savvy. >> My >> concern is that with each upgrade of Skype, it becomes less user friendly >> for blind people than the previous one. And while some improvements are >> going to happen, my thinking is that if it's not broken, don't fix it. >> It >> seems that the Skype software is slowly becoming more and more unfriendly >> to >> screen readers. And while all the credit in the world goes out to Doug >> for >> keeping the Jaws scripts as current as possible, my fear is that one day >> the >> program will just become too complicated for the average Jaws user to >> navigate. And from the looks of the posts to this group, I'd say that >> we're >> heading in that direction. >> >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >> latest version of skype go to >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >> >> >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >> latest version of skype go to >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > -- > Bruce Toews > dogriver at ogts.net > > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the > latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > To access tutorials and other goodies go to > http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > Skypeenglish at emissives.com > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com
