Oh ok thanks for helping me out on this.
Sincerely, Jason known as Blind Fury windowslive contact kb3icc at msn.com skype contact kb3icc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <[email protected]> To: "screen access software with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 12:18 AM Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Important! Information on the Skype4.1"Screen Reader Not Detected" Problem > The Delete key will delete entries from that list, but you have to > select one or more entries to delete first. I know this is unusual > for a list, because usually just arrowing through a list will select > entries. In Skype, the selected entry is the one shown in the Skype > window, at least in Default view. If Skype selected an entry every > time you hit an arrow key, navigation through that list would be very > slow. > > So if you're not using scripts, delete a Conversation, or Inbox, entry > by pressing Space to select it, then Del to get rid of it. > > On Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 12:11:39AM -0400, jason wrote: >> Oh ok I understand what you mean, but they shouldn't still keep showing >> after you hit the delete key and removed them. >> >> >> Sincerely, >> Jason known as Blind Fury >> windowslive contact kb3icc at msn.com >> skype contact kb3icc >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <dgl at dlee.org> >> To: "screen access software with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com> >> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 12:00 AM >> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Important! Information on the Skype >> 4.1"Screen Reader Not Detected" Problem >> >> >>> Keep in mind that "history" and "conversation list" are two different >>> things. The History page, which is accessed by Ctrl+8 with scripts >>> running and Alt+3 otherwise, is what's managed by the Keep History For >>> option. >>> >>> The conversation list, accessed by Ctrl+2 with scripts or Alt+2 >>> without, is sort of like an inbox. Just as with an inbox, things >>> never leave that list until you delete them yourself. You will only >>> see one entry for any one person in that list though. >>> >>> A concrete example: I send you a chat line, a voicemail, a call, and >>> a file, then Joe sends you a file and a chat line. In Skype 3.8, that >>> would be six events. In Skype 4.1, that would be six History list >>> entries, but you said not to keep history, so you might not see >>> anything in that list. But in Skype 4.1, you still will get two, not >>> six but two, entries in your Conversation list, or Inbox: one for me, >>> and one for Joe. >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:42:33PM -0400, jason wrote: >>>> another problem is deleting history. We should have the ability to >>>> delete our history if we don't want to keep it. I have my options set >>>> to >>>> never keep history and clear cookies but every time I log on to skype, >>>> it >>>> keeps bringing old conversations up in to my list which those happened >>>> a >>>> week ago. It says that it is supposed to clear history and ookies on >>>> exit. That is one of the choices in the options menu. I hope there is >>>> a >>>> solution that we can get rid of all of the history, because you can do >>>> that in 3.8. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Jason known as Blind Fury >>>> windowslive contact kb3icc at msn.com >>>> skype contact kb3icc >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <dgl at dlee.org> >>>> To: <skypeenglish at emissives.com>; <gui-talk at nfbnet.org> >>>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 2:54 PM >>>> Subject: [Skypeenglish] Important! Information on the Skype 4.1 "Screen >>>> Reader Not Detected" Problem >>>> >>>> >>>>> I doubt this happens to very many people, but I have already noticed >>>>> that it has happened to some, and the problem is serious enough in its >>>>> effects to warrant the "Important!" subject line attention-getter. >>>>> >>>>> Note that this only applies to users of Skype 4.1 beta, the one >>>>> released in May of 2009. If you run Skype 3.8 or Skype 4.0, you >>>>> should not see the problem discussed below. >>>>> >>>>> The following information may apply to you if you have ever been >>>>> running Skype 4.1 beta, released in May of 2009, and encountered any >>>>> of the following: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Inability to arrow through the contact list, the conversation list, >>>>> or any other Skype list control. >>>>> >>>>> 2. JAWS reading huge volumes of information on arrow keys or tab, >>>>> such as most or all of one of those lists. >>>>> >>>>> 3. Alt+numbers and Alt+arrows in a conversation window saying "Not in >>>>> a chat window" even though you really are in one. >>>>> >>>>> 4. For BX users, BX saying "unknown object" for a great many portions >>>>> of Skype's interface. >>>>> >>>>> Causes of the above problems include doing any of the following >>>>> things while Skype 4.1 beta is running: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Unloading and reloading JAWS. (This may cause the problem but does >>>>> not always do so.) >>>>> >>>>> 2. Changing to a different JAWS version by unloading one and then >>>>> loading another. >>>>> >>>>> 3. Running Microsoft Narrator and then closing it while Skype is >>>>> still running. >>>>> >>>>> 4. Playing with another screen reader and shutting it down while Skype >>>>> is running. >>>>> >>>>> If you never do any of those things, you should never run into this >>>>> problem. >>>>> >>>>> I have written up a detailed description of this issue, including what >>>>> to do about it if you encounter it, at my web site, >>>>> >>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype/ >>>>> >>>>> The direct URL to the information page for this issue is >>>>> >>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype/sr_not_detected.php >>>>> >>>>> In summary, the above user actions can cause this Skype 4.1 beta to >>>>> lose track of the fact that a screen reader is running, which in turn >>>>> causes it to stop providing all accessibility information until it is >>>>> restarted. Future Skype 4 releases are expected to improve >>>>> significantly on this situation. The Skype developers and management >>>>> are aware of this problem. It escaped notice during the testing of >>>>> the Skype 4.1 beta release because unloading and reloading a screen >>>>> reader is not a regular enough occurrence to have come to mind as a >>>>> necessary part of the testing process, either for them or for me. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org >>>>> http://www.dlee.org >>>>> SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com >>>>> http://www.ssbbartgroup.com >>>>> "I before E, except after C, or when sounded like A, as in neighbor >>>>> and weigh, except for when weird foreign concierges seize neither >>>>> leisure nor science from the height of society." >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >>>>> the latest version of skype go to >>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>>>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >>>> the latest version of skype go to >>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>> >>> -- >>> Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org http://www.dlee.org >>> SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com >>> http://www.ssbbartgroup.com >>> No one alive is beyond hope; every second of life is a chance. >>> (08/29/02) >>> >>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >>> the latest version of skype go to >>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >> >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >> latest version of skype go to >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > -- > Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org http://www.dlee.org > SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com > http://www.ssbbartgroup.com > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the > latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > To access tutorials and other goodies go to > http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > Skypeenglish at emissives.com > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com
