Running two screen readers simulatneously is asking for trouble, even if it 
works, sort of.

Cheers,
Dave
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: jim grimsby Jr. 
  To: 'a list for discussing skype and its use with screen access software.' 
  Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 2:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] a bit off-topic, jaws update


  And your message shows how little you actually know about jaws.  everything
  that works with jaws, whether it is a skype script or the default script is
  a script.  So you cannot use the skype or anything else in Windows with jaws
  without scripts.  I think you  might wish to refer to the jaws help file.
  Hope this helps.


  -----Original Message-----
  From: skypeenglish-bounces at emissives.com
  [mailto:skypeenglish-bounces at emissives.com] On Behalf Of Allan Wong
  Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 9:50 PM
  To: a list for discussing skype and its use with screen accesssoftware.
  Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] a bit off-topic, jaws update

  1st. I don't need all the skype announcement.

  2nd. I don't need all the extra features provided by the script.

  3rd. I don't need script when using skype chat. because since skype 3.6, the
  skype chat is very accessible with jaws and NVDA.

  therefore, I don't use the skype script. jaws 7/8/9 are working 90% perfect
  on skype 3.5/3.6/3.8beta.

  at least it is more then enough for me to make outgoing calls and receive
  incoming calls.

  so, I am the one who use skype without any script with jaws and NVDA.

  but, please don't confuse, I wrote the above doesn't mean I trying to stop
  all of you to using skype script, I just tell why I don't 
  use skype script.

  ps. I stopped using skype script since the script in revision 3++.

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  Warmest Regards,
  Allan Wong



  From: Gary Hough
  Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 10:02
  To: a list for discussing skype and its use with screen accesssoftware.
  Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] a bit off-topic, jaws update


  Hi,

  I think most of us use scripts.
  How do you manage without scripts for skype if you can't see?
  I couldn't get it right.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Allan Wong" <allan.wkf at luvfm.net>
  To: "a list for discussing skype and its use with screen accesssoftware."
  <skypeenglish at emissives.com>
  Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 2:15 AM
  Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] a bit off-topic, jaws update


  > yeah, you are right, but I'm not using any script at all for my skype. so
  > it is nothing to be broken.
  >
  >
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  >
  > Warmest Regards,
  > Allan Wong
  >
  >
  >
  > From: orhan deniz
  > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 01:57
  > To: a list for discussing skype and its use with screen accesssoftware.
  > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] a bit off-topic, jaws update
  >
  >
  > Yes, but it was only one god damn message!
  >  for god's sake, I only wanted to inform the list about a jaws update.
  > Next
  > time, if your scripts break and a member of the list did not post the jaws
  > update message, and people did not elaberate on it, then don't be
  > disgrunteled that you got not as many replies, and that you were not
  > prepared!
  >  bloody hell, ya, i'm angry because people think that they can't press the
  > damn delete key and forget about the damn message!
  >  that's total ignorence to start moaning, showing that you are angry in
  > messages.
  >  Next time forget it!
  >  no no no news of jaws updates to the list.
  >
  >  Moderator, please put in the list guidelines:
  >  "posting updates to screen reader's or other access technology is
  > strictly
  > prohibited!"
  >
  >
  >  And what about people who are only on this list and were not aware of the
  > jaws update until I posted the message?
  >
  >  Just my thaughts,
  >  Orhan.
  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
  >  From: MR. Young
  >  To: a list for discussing skype and its use with screen accesssoftware.
  >  Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 2:14 PM
  >  Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] a bit off-topic, jaws update
  >
  >
  >  That is not the answer. Lets say one day, some people spam the
  > SkypeEnglish
  >  list with unsolicited Emails.
  >  Would you tolerate that?
  >
  >  --------------------------------------------------
  >  From: "justin" <drummer060891 at gmail.com>
  >  Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 6:38 PM
  >  To: "a list for discussing skype and its use with screen accesssoftware."
  >  <skypeenglish at emissives.com>
  >  Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] a bit off-topic, jaws update
  >
  >  can't you just press the delete key in your email client
  >  I mean come on it was just an email
  >  people who did not want to respond to it just pressed the delete key
  >  my goodness!
  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
  >  From: "Allan Wong" <allan.wkf at luvfm.net>
  >  To: "a list for discussing skype and its use with screen accesssoftware."
  >  <skypeenglish at emissives.com>
  >  Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 6:18 AM
  >  Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] a bit off-topic, jaws update
  >
  >
  >  > but, this, is, skype, list.
  >  >
  >  > if one wish to know more about jaws, he/she should subscribe to the
  > jaws
  >  > list and not just mess up the skype list with such info...
  >  >
  >  > let me ask you, some of us here also intrusted to know more about eBay,
  > so
  >  > can I forward all eBay's news to this list? although
  >  > skype is under eBay, but skype still skype and eBay is eBay.
  >  >
  >  > if everyone just simply send anything to the list, so why Italian skype
  >  > user or any others language skype user are not allow to post
  >  > their language to the list? this is just because this is "skype
  > english"
  >  > list.
  >  >
  >  >
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  >  >
  >  > Warmest Regards,
  >  > Allan Wong
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > From: Jean Philippe
  >  > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 15:49
  >  > To: a list for discussing skype and its use with screen access
  > software.
  >  > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] a bit off-topic, jaws update
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > Well, it was only a little bit off topic.
  >  > I think we are all a little bit concerned about Jaws' evolution. Aren't
  >  > we?
  >  > Best,
  >  > Jean-Philippe
  >  >
  >  > http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
  >  >
  >  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
  >  >  From: Allan Wong
  >  >  To: a list for discussing skype and its use with screen
  > accesssoftware.
  >  >  Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 3:42 AM
  >  >  Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] a bit off-topic, jaws update
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >  ahh! as you know it is off topic, why must you send it at the first
  >  > place? so next time we can just write "off topic" and send
  >  >  whatever software releases to the list?.
  >  >
  >
  >  >
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  >  >
  >  >  Warmest Regards,
  >  >  Allan Wong
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >  From: orhan deniz
  >  >  Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 06:32
  >  >  To: a list for discussing skype and its use with screen
  > accesssoftware.
  >  >  Subject: [Skypeenglish] a bit off-topic, jaws update
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >  the jaws 9.0 update is out.
  >  >  go to:
  >  >  http://www.freedomscientific.com
  >  >
  >  >  orhan. 
  Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for the
  latest version of skype go to 
  http://www.dlee.org/skype
  To access tutorials and other goodies go to
  http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
  thanks and have a wonderful day.


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