Hi Doug,

First of all, thanks a lot for the great scripts you have been writing and updating to make us blind people on truck concerning Skype accessibility.

Talking of scripts, i have a couple of questions for you:

1. Are there any scripts' updates coming soon for skype 5 or you still have to wait until the company comes witha final version?

2. Do you think you'll have better chances to make the future updates of skype better in terms of usability with jaws or things are getting harder as new skype updates come up?

Thanks a million one more time Doug

Hamid AITOUZNAG

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MSN: [email protected]

Twitter: hamidgeni


On 28/06/2010 02:35, Doug Lee wrote:
With all due respect to all, this debate over old software support is
both larger than the scope of this list and impossible to "win" to one
side or the other.  Skype decides what Skype versions to support, I
decide what JAWS and Skype versions to support with scripts, users
decide what versions of Windows to use while Microsoft decides which
Windows versions to support.  The best we can do is make our
individual decisions based on our own priorities and abilities, and
perhaps, avoid assuming that our own priorities and abilities match
those of everyone else.

On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 06:25:15PM -0700, Jim Grimsby JR. wrote:
Josh it isn't just going to be one program.  It might start out that  way
but as time goes buy there is going to be more and more.  For example you
will find that your sound editing software no longer works under 98 you will
find that you can't get on windows live with 98.  Some pages will not even
display under 98 so now you can't pay your bills because internet explorer 5
is no longer supported.  It is not just going to be skype.  And this always
comes up that people think main stream providers should support all this old
stuff just because some blind people can't afford to update to new stuff.
People this is not there problem and they should not be forced to support
old stuff just because x person can't afford to update.  Fact is these are
not the people the company will be making money on any way.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 9:19 AM
To: screen access software with skype
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Unwanted skype update

Also something to consider is why would a person upgrade there system for
one program? Especially if everything else is serving there particular
needs. If Skype is going to support the later versions then I see no need
for someone that rarely gets on the computer other than using Skype to put
themself  in a financial hardship to please everyone else. What is that
saying "Today isn't your day and tomorrow doesn't look good eitehr". Well
that is my two cents worth. Maybe when programs that they use on a regular
basis start failing on them  then it might be time to start looking for a
new system until then they are happy with what they have and that is all
that matters. Have a good one.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Grimsby JR."<[email protected]>
To: "'screen access software with skype'"<[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Unwanted skype update


This is true but the facts are still that as your computer gets older
there will be less and less you can do with it.  For example my friend
running windows xp if she doesn't update to something new soon will be
unable to use windows live products etc.  this is the facts of life
and old computers.so it isn't that I don't feel for these people it is
the fact that at some point the world moves on and if you can't move
on with it buy some means then you get left behind.  Sad but true.  If
you're going to use windows me
98 and even xp to a degree these days you can expect fewer and fewer
products and services to work with that computer.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lyn&  Twinny
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 3:56 AM
To: screen access software with skype
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Unwanted skype update

Jim,

I think you need to take into consideration that not everybody has the
money to upgrade their computers.  I personally agree with you to some
extend but it's not fair for you to talk that way considering that
some people really can't afford the luxury of a new computer, let
alone a screen reader which costs an arm and a leg unfortunately.  If
you are able to afford all this, then that's great but not everyone is
in the same situation as you are.
The
other thing is that there are probably people from different countries
on this list and some governments do not help blind people buy a new
computer or a screen reader so that also needs to be taken into
consideration.
Unfortunately, not everyone is fortunate and we all need to remember
that instead of bashing those who don't upgrade their skype,
computers, Jaws and what not.

Lyn&  twinny

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and other goodies go to http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html


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Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for the latest 
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To access tutorials and other goodies go to
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To contact the list owner send a message to
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to download a tool to automate the installation of skypewatch  go to this link.
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Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for the latest 
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To access tutorials and other goodies go to
http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html


To contact the list owner send a message to
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to download a tool to automate the installation of skypewatch  go to this link.
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