Hi,  the  available scripts for skype work with skype 5 beta just fine.
Skype 5 beta is just as useable as skype 4.2.  skype 4.2 of course has been
the simplest version of skype to date.  All  of the information is found
within one window.  So there is no need to switch tasks from window to
window to get things done.  You can just use the skype main window.   With
the jaws scripts active live comversation move up to the top of the contact
list thus making it easy to deal with calls.  It is easy to get to the
conversation list and to the event list and chat input box.  Once you read
the script help your going to find your amazed at the access skype it self
has to offer and your going to be amaized how doug has improved on it for
jaws users.  
Also with the scripts you should consider skype talking.  It is a program
that works threw the skype api to provide information to your screen reader.
It also provides an alternative contact list.  Switching to an active chat
with a key stroke from any where etc.  with these tools in your tool box
skype 4.2 is a real treat to use.  
Hth 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hamid Aitouznag
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 2:36 AM
To: screen access software with skype
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Unwanted skype update

Hi Doug,

First of all, thanks a lot for the great scripts you have been writing and
updating to make us blind people on truck concerning Skype accessibility.

Talking of scripts, i have a couple of questions for you:

1. Are there any scripts'  updates coming soon for skype 5 or you still have
to wait until the company comes witha final version?

2. Do you think you'll have better chances to make the future updates of
skype better in terms of usability with jaws or things are getting harder as
new skype updates come up?

Thanks a million one more time Doug

Hamid AITOUZNAG

Skype: hamidgeni

MSN: [email protected]

Twitter: hamidgeni


On 28/06/2010 02:35, Doug Lee wrote:
> With all due respect to all, this debate over old software support is 
> both larger than the scope of this list and impossible to "win" to one 
> side or the other.  Skype decides what Skype versions to support, I 
> decide what JAWS and Skype versions to support with scripts, users 
> decide what versions of Windows to use while Microsoft decides which 
> Windows versions to support.  The best we can do is make our 
> individual decisions based on our own priorities and abilities, and 
> perhaps, avoid assuming that our own priorities and abilities match 
> those of everyone else.
>
> On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 06:25:15PM -0700, Jim Grimsby JR. wrote:
> Josh it isn't just going to be one program.  It might start out that  
> way but as time goes buy there is going to be more and more.  For 
> example you will find that your sound editing software no longer works 
> under 98 you will find that you can't get on windows live with 98.  
> Some pages will not even display under 98 so now you can't pay your 
> bills because internet explorer 5 is no longer supported.  It is not 
> just going to be skype.  And this always comes up that people think 
> main stream providers should support all this old stuff just because some
blind people can't afford to update to new stuff.
> People this is not there problem and they should not be forced to 
> support old stuff just because x person can't afford to update.  Fact 
> is these are not the people the company will be making money on any way.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh
> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 9:19 AM
> To: screen access software with skype
> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Unwanted skype update
>
> Also something to consider is why would a person upgrade there system 
> for one program? Especially if everything else is serving there 
> particular needs. If Skype is going to support the later versions then 
> I see no need for someone that rarely gets on the computer other than 
> using Skype to put themself  in a financial hardship to please 
> everyone else. What is that saying "Today isn't your day and tomorrow 
> doesn't look good eitehr". Well that is my two cents worth. Maybe when 
> programs that they use on a regular basis start failing on them  then 
> it might be time to start looking for a new system until then they are 
> happy with what they have and that is all that matters. Have a good one.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Grimsby JR."<[email protected]>
> To: "'screen access software with skype'"<[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 7:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Unwanted skype update
>
>
>    
>> This is true but the facts are still that as your computer gets older 
>> there will be less and less you can do with it.  For example my 
>> friend running windows xp if she doesn't update to something new soon 
>> will be unable to use windows live products etc.  this is the facts 
>> of life and old computers.so it isn't that I don't feel for these 
>> people it is the fact that at some point the world moves on and if 
>> you can't move on with it buy some means then you get left behind.  
>> Sad but true.  If you're going to use windows me
>> 98 and even xp to a degree these days you can expect fewer and fewer 
>> products and services to work with that computer.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lyn&  Twinny
>> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 3:56 AM
>> To: screen access software with skype
>> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Unwanted skype update
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>> I think you need to take into consideration that not everybody has 
>> the money to upgrade their computers.  I personally agree with you to 
>> some extend but it's not fair for you to talk that way considering 
>> that some people really can't afford the luxury of a new computer, 
>> let alone a screen reader which costs an arm and a leg unfortunately.  
>> If you are able to afford all this, then that's great but not 
>> everyone is in the same situation as you are.
>> The
>> other thing is that there are probably people from different 
>> countries on this list and some governments do not help blind people 
>> buy a new computer or a screen reader so that also needs to be taken 
>> into
>>      
> consideration.
>    
>> Unfortunately, not everyone is fortunate and we all need to remember 
>> that instead of bashing those who don't upgrade their skype, 
>> computers, Jaws and what not.
>>
>> Lyn&  twinny
>>
>> **********
>> Email&  MSn:
>> [email protected]
>> Skype:
>> keanemaniac
>> klango:
>> keanemaniac
>> facebook:
>> www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33
>> (Please say who you are and where you got my info if asking to share 
>> details, thank you)
>>
>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for 
>> the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access 
>> tutorials and other goodies go to 
>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
>>
>>
>> To contact the list owner send a message to 
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>>
>> and for a searchable archives page go here.
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>> thanks and have a wonderful day.
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> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for 
> the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access 
> tutorials and other goodies go to 
> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
>
>
> To contact the list owner send a message to 
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>
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Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for the
latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access tutorials
and other goodies go to http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html


To contact the list owner send a message to
mailto:[email protected]

to download a tool to automate the installation of skypewatch  go to this
link.
http://www.hrvojekatic.tk/

and for a searchable archives page go here.
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thanks and have a wonderful day.


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http://www.dlee.org/skype
To access tutorials and other goodies go to
http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html


To contact the list owner send a message to
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to download a tool to automate the installation of skypewatch  go to this link.
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