Re: [sldev] Please help testing the SL Viewer with integrated universal translation

[Kelly Linden]

On 2/26/09 12:10 PM, Henri Beauchamp wrote: To avoid excessive noise on the list, I'm grouping two replies here, and this will be my last message on the list about this topic (email me privately if you wish to continue the argument, please). On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:34:17 -0800, Kelly Linden wrote: I personally think this was a great project! I also think the method of soliciting feedback and review on this list was great. Even if you disagree with the idea of computer translation this project is an excellent example of one kind of thing people will want to do with a plug-in system. Looking at what it took to integrate this is a good use case for any plug-in api. Thanks Joy! I never said it was a bad example of user-ran project neither that the request for feedback on this list was a bad idea. I simply said it was pretty doomed to failure because of the poor (and actually pitiful) results returned by the automatic translators it is relying on. In any case, should it make its way into the official viewers some day, pretty please, make it an *optional* feature that each user can *disable* entirely on their end. Else, you'll find many non-English speakers muted in world... The point is that this is the SL Development list, not the State of Machine Translation or Which Language Is Easier list.  We need to encourage and foster *anyone* that is actually writing code and using this list for what it should be used for.   The thoughts on being able to disable it, and the various parties that will want some way to disable it are great.  The trail off into "my language is more complex than yours" isn't great.  The strong undertone of "what you are doing is stupid" isn't great. Writing an LSL hud is one thing, the barrier to entry is low.  Getting a viewer to even compile is probably more total effort, let alone doing what it takes to understand the code enough to embed this kind of project.  This developer needs encouragement and congratulations and to be welcomed into the community.  They were not getting that because they sparked a debate on which language is better or more complex.  I specifically didn't reply to any of the debate threads because I wasn't commenting on them.  I was only commenting on the actual project, to which I say again: Great work Joy!  - Kelly

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