joyce asked: > >What on earth is a sub-pop jock bar? don't you read sloan net posts? :)
seriously, if you've ever read one of the kids from ottawa's reviews of any subpop show in that city, you'll know *exactly* what they mean. jeremy explained it in explicit terms. the thing i don't get, is if the kids who go to these shows get treated so badly and the venue generally sucks, *why* do the bands return to those spots when duh, there are other places in town? for example... while most genuine music fans in calgary would rather frequent the night gallery, really big out of town acts (bands on matador, merge, and subpop, for example) usually end up at *shudder* the republik. this sucks because then you get lineups like spent opening for sandbox and the gandharvas and then seam finally coming on. victor, the guy who runs the place, doesn't exactly know what's cool (two years ago he asked one of my friends if he should book "some band called pavement" - he didn't think anyone would come). you also get situations where drunken trendoids from electric avenue come barhopping and stop off at the republik cause "alternative is cool, dude." they usually show up with boxer shorts over their pants and proceed to spill beer all over those of us who actually want to see the bands. many a show ruined by these idiots. eric's trip *always* play the republik. jale, hardship post, six finger satellite, pond...all at the republik. the only subpop band i can remember not being there was nirvana at the westward. i don't know how bands/labels determine where they will play on a tour (on the fire engine red tour, it was whoever would promise they might get paid :) if anyone showed up), but i really like what colin and the bands on murder have been doing lately and *asking* people for venue suggestions and taking them to heart. surely with the budget of subpop as well as access to the internet and c/c radio station music directors, you (not you specifically, joyce, just whomever does these things) can spend some time figuring out which venues will be favourable for both the fans and the band. :) tara -- "Johnnie Cox also caused problems for scores of professional music video makers." - The Coast CJSW 90.9 fm --> http://www.ucalgary.ca/~cjswfm