* Jan Wieck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [061201 18:00]:
> On 12/1/2006 11:09 AM, David Fetter wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 02:51:38PM +0200, Hannu Krosing wrote:> Ühel kenal 
> > päeval, R, 2006-12-01 kell 11:19, kirjutas Victoria Parsons:> > Hi,> > > > 
> > I have been using slony to replicate two database from a master> > machine 
> > to a varied number of slaves on a production system. The> > maximum that 
> > has been tested is 12. I have been asked how many we> > could get up to. 
> > From following the mailing list I have got an idea in> > my head of no more 
> > than about 20. This is because of the increased CPU> > each slon daemon 
> > uses. I know this could be increased to some extent> > by getting a more 
> > powerful machine for my master.> > > > There is talk here of replicating 
> > two databases to 1024 machines. I'm> > pretty sure that will fall over in a 
> > big heap. Has anyone ever tried> > that many? I have never used the log 
> > shipping method - would that help> > by reducing load on the master? Also I 
> > run all slon daemons from the> > master server. Would it become more 
> > scalable if I moved the slon>
>  > daemons to each slave in the system.> > I'd try the following approach : > 
> * run 1 slon slave wherever you want and ask them to save SQL commands > in 
> text files> * move these text files ( using whatever means ) to slaves and 
> apply> there using shell scripts.
> > This sounds like a *great* way to do statement-based replication thatwould 
> > actually work.  Have you tested to see what what resources itsaves, if any? 
> >  Do you have general scripts for doing such things?Also, how do you 
> > distinguish what should be replayed vs. what shouldnot?
> > Cheers,D-- David Fetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://fetter.org/phone: +1 415 
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> Statement based replication in an MVCC system is error prone!
> 
> Just consider the following little flow of events:
> 
> X1: begin;
> X1: set transaction isolation level read committed;
> X2: begin;
> X2: set transaction isolation level read committed;
> X1: update foo set bar = 1 where baz = 5;
> X1: commit;
> X2: update foo set bar = 2 where baz < 20;
> X2: commit;
> 
> In a concurrent environment, you have a race condition between X1's 
> update and X2's update. How do you know exactly which one happened first 
> in the database?

Well, it's not statement based. It's basically a feature of slony,
that allows to "export" all the statements it applies to it's own
slave => These statements are in fact generated out of the data
captured on writeable master by the slony triggers.

Andreas

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