On 02/01/2016 01:24 PM, Tignor, Tom wrote:
> 
>       Quick update: a couple hours after deleting entries from both sl_log
> tables with txids > 630M, it appears the cleanup thread has taken care of
> business. sl_log_1 is down from 54GB to 24KB.

I still wonder how that happened in the first place.

Was there a sequence of dropping and re-creating a node recently? I
think I have seen cases like this where if a node is re-created with the
same node ID before the cleanup of data, belonging to the dropped node,
had happened everywhere. The "cleanup" I am talking about is basically 2
complete log switches on all nodes after the DROP NODE had replicated
everywhere. That takes at least 20-30 minutes and can in some cases take
hours.


Regards, Jan


> 
>       Tom    :-)
> 
> 
> On 2/1/16, 9:06 AM, "Tignor, Tom" <ttig...@akamai.com> wrote:
> 
>>
>>      Jan,
>>      Thanks much for all the help. I’ve been looking over logswitch finish 
>> and
>>the event and changelog tables. Selecting logswitch_finish() on one of my
>>replicas simply returned ""Slony-I: log switch to sl_log_2 still in
>>progress - sl_log_1 not truncated” All three seem to be in that state with
>>either sl_log_1 or sl_log_2. Looking closer at sl_event and sl_log_2 I’m
>>seeing some strangeness.
>>
>>ams=# select min(pg_catalog.txid_snapshot_xmin(ev_snapshot)),
>>max(pg_catalog.txid_snapshot_xmin(ev_snapshot)) from _ams_cluster.sl_event
>>where ev_origin = 1;
>>    min    |    max
>>-----------+-----------
>> 139136948 | 139204299
>>(1 row)
>>
>>
>>ams=# select min(log_txid), max(log_txid) from _ams_cluster.sl_log_2 where
>>log_origin = 1;
>>    min    |    max
>>-----------+-----------
>> 631532717 | 631661386
>>(1 row)
>>
>>
>>ams=#
>>
>>
>>      So I understand all the txids referenced in sl_event are in the 139M
>>range while all those in sl_log_2 are in the 631M range. Normally, the
>>sl_log txids should be older, shouldn’t they? Do you think I’ve hit a
>>txid-wraparound problem?
>>
>>      Tom    :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>On 1/28/16, 1:09 PM, "Jan Wieck" <j...@wi3ck.info> wrote:
>>
>>>On 01/28/2016 11:11 AM, Tignor, Tom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>    Output below. They seem to be replicating normally, except for the
>>>>sl_log
>>>> growth.
>>>
>>>Indeed. Is there anything in the slon logs for those nodes that says why
>>>it doesn't finish the log switch?
>>>
>>>Connect to the database as a the slony user.
>>>
>>>To check if a log switch is indeed in progress, do
>>>
>>>     SELECT last_value FROM _ams_cluster.sl_log_status;
>>>
>>>It should be either 2 or 3. If it is 0 or 1, no log switch is in
>>>progress and you can start one with
>>>
>>>     SELECCT _ams_cluster.logswitch_start();
>>>
>>>If it is 2 or 3, then you can do
>>>
>>>     SELECT _ams_cluster.logswitch_finish();
>>>
>>>All these operations are harmless and will only do what is safely
>>>possible. Look at the code of logswitch_finish() to find out how it
>>>determines if the current log switch can be finished. In short, the
>>>cleanup thread is removing events from sl_event that have been confirmed
>>>by all nodes in the cluster. The function logswitch_finish() looks if
>>>there is anything left in sl_event, that belonged to that old log. If so
>>>it will not finish. Running those queries manually you can find out what
>>>that event is that is preventing the switch to finish.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> a...@ams-repl2.ams.netmgmt:~$ /a/third-party/postgresql/bin/psql -U
>>>> ams_slony -d ams -c 'select * from _ams_cluster.sl_status'
>>>>   st_origin | st_received | st_last_event |       st_last_event_ts
>>>>  |
>>>> st_last_received |      st_last_received_ts      |
>>>> st_last_received_event_ts   | st_lag_num_events |   st_lag_time
>>>>
>>>>-----------+-------------+---------------+------------------------------
>>>>-
>>>>+-
>>>>
>>>>-----------------+-------------------------------+----------------------
>>>>-
>>>>--
>>>> ------+-------------------+-----------------
>>>>           2 |           1 |    5000611610 | 2016-01-28
>>>>16:06:37.343826+00 |
>>>>        5000611610 | 2016-01-28 16:06:38.843562+00 | 2016-01-28
>>>> 16:06:37.343826+00 |                 0 | 00:00:09.201996
>>>>           2 |           3 |    5000611610 | 2016-01-28
>>>>16:06:37.343826+00 |
>>>>        5000611609 | 2016-01-28 16:06:29.851545+00 | 2016-01-28
>>>> 16:06:27.341894+00 |                 1 | 00:00:19.203928
>>>>           2 |           4 |    5000611610 | 2016-01-28
>>>>16:06:37.343826+00 |
>>>>        5000611610 | 2016-01-28 16:06:38.710974+00 | 2016-01-28
>>>> 16:06:37.343826+00 |                 0 | 00:00:09.201996
>>>> (3 rows)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> a...@ams-repl3.lga.netmgmt:~$  /a/third-party/postgresql/bin/psql -U
>>>> ams_slony -d ams -c 'select * from _ams_cluster.sl_status'
>>>>   st_origin | st_received | st_last_event |       st_last_event_ts
>>>>  |
>>>> st_last_received |      st_last_received_ts      |
>>>> st_last_received_event_ts   | st_lag_num_events |   st_lag_time
>>>>
>>>>-----------+-------------+---------------+------------------------------
>>>>-
>>>>+-
>>>>
>>>>-----------------+-------------------------------+----------------------
>>>>-
>>>>--
>>>> ------+-------------------+-----------------
>>>>           3 |           4 |    5000654642 | 2016-01-28
>>>>16:07:05.493455+00 |
>>>>        5000654642 | 2016-01-28 16:07:06.486539+00 | 2016-01-28
>>>> 16:07:05.493455+00 |                 0 | 00:00:08.522529
>>>>           3 |           1 |    5000654642 | 2016-01-28
>>>>16:07:05.493455+00 |
>>>>        5000654642 | 2016-01-28 16:07:08.040292+00 | 2016-01-28
>>>> 16:07:05.493455+00 |                 0 | 00:00:08.522529
>>>>           3 |           2 |    5000654642 | 2016-01-28
>>>>16:07:05.493455+00 |
>>>>        5000654642 | 2016-01-28 16:07:08.472049+00 | 2016-01-28
>>>> 16:07:05.493455+00 |                 0 | 00:00:08.522529
>>>> (3 rows)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> a...@ams-repl4.blr.netmgmt:~$  /a/third-party/postgresql/bin/psql -U
>>>> ams_slony -d ams -c 'select * from _ams_cluster.sl_status'
>>>>   st_origin | st_received | st_last_event |       st_last_event_ts
>>>>  |
>>>> st_last_received |      st_last_received_ts      |
>>>> st_last_received_event_ts   | st_lag_num_events |   st_lag_time
>>>>
>>>>-----------+-------------+---------------+------------------------------
>>>>-
>>>>+-
>>>>
>>>>-----------------+-------------------------------+----------------------
>>>>-
>>>>--
>>>> ------+-------------------+-----------------
>>>>           4 |           3 |    5000637483 | 2016-01-28
>>>>16:07:32.698809+00 |
>>>>        5000637482 | 2016-01-28 16:07:28.731404+00 | 2016-01-28
>>>> 16:07:22.695826+00 |                 1 | 00:00:19.077657
>>>>           4 |           1 |    5000637483 | 2016-01-28
>>>>16:07:32.698809+00 |
>>>>        5000637482 | 2016-01-28 16:07:24.839978+00 | 2016-01-28
>>>> 16:07:22.695826+00 |                 1 | 00:00:19.077657
>>>>           4 |           2 |    5000637483 | 2016-01-28
>>>>16:07:32.698809+00 |
>>>>        5000637482 | 2016-01-28 16:07:22.926411+00 | 2016-01-28
>>>> 16:07:22.695826+00 |                 1 | 00:00:19.077657
>>>> (3 rows)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Tom    :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/28/16, 10:38 AM, "Jan Wieck" <j...@wi3ck.info> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 01/28/2016 08:30 AM, Tignor, Tom wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello slony folks,
>>>>>>  From my reading I¹m guessing (hoping) this isn¹t a new problem. I
>>>>>>have
>>>>>> a simple cluster with one provider replicating to three subscribers.
>>>>>>The
>>>>>> provider¹s changelog tables (sl_log_[1|2]) are fine, but the
>>>>>>subscribers
>>>>>> (with forwarding enabled) are all showing runaway growth. Looked
>>>>>>through
>>>>>> the FAQ and I don¹t see the node I dropped or any idle transactions
>>>>>>as
>>>>>> viable culprits. Are there other thoughts on the cause? Can I safely
>>>>>> manually delete/truncate some/all of the changelog tables? These
>>>>>> replicas are all leaf nodes. I only have forwarding turned on to
>>>>>>allow
>>>>>> for failover, and my replication rate is the 2 sec default.
>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any insights.
>>>>>
>>>>>What is the output of the sl_status view "on those leaf nodes"?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ams=# select
>>>>>> pg_size_pretty(pg_total_relation_size('_ams_cluster.sl_log_1'));
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   pg_size_pretty
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   75 MB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (1 row)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ams=# select
>>>>>> pg_size_pretty(pg_total_relation_size('_ams_cluster.sl_log_2'));
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   pg_size_pretty
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   34 GB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (1 row)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ams=# select * from _ams_cluster.sl_confirm where con_origin not in
>>>>>> (select no_id from _ams_cluster.sl_node) or con_received not in
>>>>>>(select
>>>>>> no_id from _ams_cluster.sl_node);
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   con_origin | con_received | con_seqno | con_timestamp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------+--------------+-----------+---------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (0 rows)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ams=# select * from pg_stat_activity where current_query like
>>>>>>'%IDLE%';
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   datid | datname | procpid | usesysid |  usename   |
>>>>>> application_name      |  client_addr   | client_hostname |
>>>>>>client_port |
>>>>>>          backend_start         |          xact_start           |
>>>>>>    query_start          | waiting |
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                          current_query
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-------+---------+---------+----------+------------+------------------
>>>>>>-
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>------+----------------+-----------------+-------------+--------------
>>>>>>-
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>--------------+-------------------------------+-----------------------
>>>>>>-
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>-----+---------+---
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   16393 | ams     |    2611 |   212995 | ams_viewer |
>>>>>>          | 88.221.209.10  |                 |       43328 |
>>>>>>2016-01-28
>>>>>> 12:24:49.706389+00 |                               | 2016-01-28
>>>>>> 13:18:02.427848+00 | f       | <I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DLE>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   16393 | ams     |   12894 |   212995 | ams_viewer |
>>>>>>          | 88.221.209.10  |                 |       60112 |
>>>>>>2016-01-28
>>>>>> 12:47:26.230681+00 |                               | 2016-01-28
>>>>>> 13:15:27.744242+00 | f       | <I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DLE>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   16393 | ams     |   12884 |   212995 | ams_viewer |
>>>>>>          | 88.221.209.10  |                 |       44302 |
>>>>>>2016-01-28
>>>>>> 12:47:25.100006+00 |                               | 2016-01-28
>>>>>> 13:15:27.936059+00 | f       | <I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DLE>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   16393 | ams     |   23466 |   213867 | ams_slony  | psql
>>>>>>          |                |                 |          -1 |
>>>>>>2016-01-28
>>>>>> 13:11:32.030343+00 | 2016-01-28 13:18:37.283992+00 | 2016-01-28
>>>>>> 13:18:37.283992+00 | f       | se
>>>>>>
>>>>>> lect * from pg_stat_activity where current_query like '%IDLE%';
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   16393 | ams     |    6719 |   213867 | ams_slony  |
>>>>>> slon.origin_2_provider_2  | 60.254.150.133 |                 |
>>>>>> 61806 | 2016-01-22 01:59:14.800129+00 |
>>>>>>|
>>>>>> 2016-01-28 13:18:25.935111+00 | f       | <I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DLE>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   16393 | ams     |    6718 |   213867 | ams_slony  |
>>>>>> slon.origin_3_provider_2  | 60.254.150.133 |                 |
>>>>>> 61805 | 2016-01-22 01:59:14.797655+00 |
>>>>>>|
>>>>>> 2016-01-28 13:18:34.304475+00 | f       | <I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DLE>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   16393 | ams     |    5505 |   213867 | ams_slony  |
>>>>>> slon.origin_4_provider_2  | 80.67.75.105   |                 |
>>>>>> 36477 | 2016-01-22 01:56:25.637046+00 |
>>>>>>|
>>>>>> 2016-01-28 13:18:36.1348+00   | f       | <I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DLE>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   16393 | ams     |    5504 |   213867 | ams_slony  |
>>>>>> slon.origin_3_provider_2  | 72.246.50.22   |                 |
>>>>>> 51813 | 2016-01-22 01:56:25.240798+00 |
>>>>>>|
>>>>>> 2016-01-28 13:18:28.961629+00 | f       | <I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DLE>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   16393 | ams     |    5487 |   213867 | ams_slony  |
>>>>>> slon.origin_4_provider_2  | 72.246.50.22   |                 |
>>>>>> 51803 | 2016-01-22 01:56:22.896388+00 |
>>>>>>|
>>>>>> 2016-01-28 13:18:35.858913+00 | f       | <I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DLE>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   16393 | ams     |    5047 |   213867 | ams_slony  |
>>>>>> slon.origin_2_provider_2  | 72.246.50.22   |                 |
>>>>>> 51564 | 2016-01-22 01:55:23.600296+00 |
>>>>>>|
>>>>>> 2016-01-28 13:18:34.487192+00 | f       | <I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DLE>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   16393 | ams     |    5041 |   213867 | ams_slony  |
>>>>>> slon.origin_2_provider_2  | 80.67.75.105   |                 |
>>>>>> 36402 | 2016-01-22 01:55:22.964462+00 |
>>>>>>|
>>>>>> 2016-01-28 13:18:34.519066+00 | f       | <I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DLE>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   16393 | ams     |    6694 |   213867 | ams_slony  |
>>>>>> slon.node_2_listen        | 60.254.150.133 |                 |
>>>>>> 61795 | 2016-01-22 01:59:12.095052+00 |
>>>>>>|
>>>>>> 2016-01-28 13:18:27.928384+00 | f       | <I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DLE>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   16393 | ams     |    4456 |   213867 | ams_slony  |
>>>>>> slon.node_2_listen        | 72.246.50.22   |                 |
>>>>>> 51238 | 2016-01-22 01:54:21.481355+00 |
>>>>>>|
>>>>>> 2016-01-28 13:18:36.766973+00 | f       | <I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DLE>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   16393 | ams     |    4457 |   213867 | ams_slony  |
>>>>>> slon.node_2_listen        | 80.67.75.105   |                 |
>>>>>> 36333 | 2016-01-22 01:54:21.500456+00 |
>>>>>>|
>>>>>> 2016-01-28 13:18:36.204482+00 | f       | <I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DLE>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   16393 | ams     |    4428 |   213867 | ams_slony  |
>>>>>> slon.local_monitor        |                |                 |
>>>>>> -1 | 2016-01-22 01:54:18.977015+00 |                               |
>>>>>> 2016-01-28 13:18:36.652567+00 | f       | <I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DLE>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   16393 | ams     |    4427 |   213867 | ams_slony  | slon.local_sync
>>>>>>          |                |                 |          -1 |
>>>>>>2016-01-22
>>>>>> 01:54:18.976932+00 |                               | 2016-01-28
>>>>>> 13:18:36.151998+00 | f       | <I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DLE>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   16393 | ams     |    4426 |   213867 | ams_slony  |
>>>>>> slon.local_cleanup        |                |                 |
>>>>>> -1 | 2016-01-22 01:54:18.976842+00 |                               |
>>>>>> 2016-01-28 13:12:12.582921+00 | f       | <I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DLE>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   16393 | ams     |    4425 |   213867 | ams_slony  |
>>>>>> slon.remoteWorkerThread_4 |                |                 |
>>>>>> -1 | 2016-01-22 01:54:18.976783+00 |                               |
>>>>>> 2016-01-28 13:18:33.99715+00  | f       | <I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DLE>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   16393 | ams     |    4420 |   213867 | ams_slony  |
>>>>>> slon.remoteWorkerThread_1 |                |                 |
>>>>>> -1 | 2016-01-22 01:54:18.976548+00 |                               |
>>>>>> 2016-01-28 13:18:33.561531+00 | f       | <I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DLE>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   16393 | ams     |    4419 |   213867 | ams_slony  |
>>>>>> slon.remoteWorkerThread_3 |                |                 |
>>>>>> -1 | 2016-01-22 01:54:18.97647+00  |                               |
>>>>>> 2016-01-28 13:18:34.808907+00 | f       | <I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DLE>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   16393 | ams     |    4413 |   213867 | ams_slony  |
>>>>>>slon.local_listen
>>>>>>          |                |                 |          -1 |
>>>>>>2016-01-22
>>>>>> 01:54:18.965568+00 |                               | 2016-01-28
>>>>>> 13:18:37.096159+00 | f       | <I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DLE>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (21 rows)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ams=#
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom    :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Jan Wieck
>>>>>Senior Software Engineer
>>>>>http://slony.info
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Jan Wieck
>>>Senior Software Engineer
>>>http://slony.info
>>
> 


-- 
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