Red Dawn wrote:
> Hi
>
> i think there seems to be some conflict going on within SLP that we need to
> clear up before we can progress as a website. I must ashamedly admit haven't
> actually contributed much to SLP yet and now I am eager to do so, but on my
> part i would first like to know a few details about the current running of
> the site:
Hey, the design was by you. You have done a lot for the website.
These are good questions.
> 1) Are we helping HWZ to earn money besides maintaining their server for
> them?
Ultimately, we are not even going to maintain their server for them.
We just provide consultation service in case they do something
wrong, like "rm -rf *". Nothing more nothing less. Hardwarezone does
their own stuff, we do our own stuff. That will be the arrangement.
> 2) Do the new members know that we're working with HWZ? Was it made known to
> them?
I hope they know. In case you all do not know, read the mail archives.
> 3) Will these deal with HWZ benefit us or lead to anything big?
Yes, it certainly does. This whole thing facilitates parallel working,
parallel working on Perl scripts, PHP, developmental mailing lists for
local open source developers, provide webhosting service for Singapore
Linux Conference 2000 (probably for LinuxWorld, in case they have
a problem looking for a host). We also mirror stuff that were not previously
possible. Provide a one stop information center for Linux locally in
Singapore.
About leading to anything big, really anything goes. If we do this
server/website well, our reputation will be enhanced and in case in
the future we want to form our own businesses, we have a reputation
of getting things to work. We can open up companies that deal with
embedded devices, network security, and stuff like that. Asking
money will be easier.
But I really do not know about this. We will see about this, okie?
But of course, Singapore Linux Portal stays as free as possible in
this process.
All these things are not even possible without the server.
> 4) Are we being made use of by HWZ unknowingly?
Our dealing with them will be reduced to pure consultation.
Nothing more. We do not have the time to support them that
heavily.
> 5) This 1net hosting is sounding more and more sucky the more mails i read.
> Can we shift to somewhere more accessible to the rest of the world? The
> local market / audience is simply too small. We will FOREVER only be stuck
> with a limited pool of readers unless we make the site known and easily
> accessible to the world. Yes I know SLP is trying to evangelise Linux to
> Singaporeans but the sad truth is, sometimes things need to be recognised by
> foreigners before Singaporeans will sit up and take notice. With all the
> sponsors and support we're *supposedly* getting, i see no reason why we
> can't be independent of HWZ and buy our own server and stuff.
Boon Hwee, I know. We are trying to resolve this. We are
talking to Compaq, aren't we? We will get those servers, and
we will host our webpages there, and ftp mirrors on Hwz's
servers.
That we have the best of both worlds. UK's people will have
a fast website to refer to, and locals will have a fast ftp site.
Elvin can have all those 40 G for his mirroring for all I care then.
And we can move on to cooler hardwares and resources.
Before that happen, we HAVE to show them we can produce
results, we have to make the website cool, we have to make
it presentable (which you did!). It is improving and hits seem to
be increasing.
If we get the Compaq's server, we will achieve full independence.
I am more excited about this than any of you. Such excitement
cannot even be described by using the word "orgasm". Stay tune
for details.
> Btw Raymond, if we're using PHP3 for the site then SSI will be rendered
> obsolete. There's better ways to get around the problem using PHP3, and you
> don't sacrifice modularity of the site or design. How??
Okie! PHP3 looks cool, it is C like and Unix like. Reminds me
of myself, cool and sexy. :P You have any experience installing it?
I have my hands tied with a lot of stuff. Admin stuff, stuff that
stops a creative person from creation.
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