Hi Lionel,

Great mail! Well written!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 9/13/99, 8:53:48 PM, Lionel Siau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote 
regarding Re: [SLP] HOw abt a FAQ and Code of Conduct for SLP?:


> Hi,

> The reason I thought it would be useful to have guidelines, rules, 
organisation
> is that SLP needs sponsorship to move forward. However, companies 
never sponsor
> anything unless they can get something out of you, usu advertising. 
But want to
> avoid a major PR fisaco if something goes wrong.


Yes! We need all those you have mentioned. Let's not waste time as we 
have been trying to do all these. Raymond is good at planning all 
these and I on the other hand have been soing some small marketing for 
SLP. I forsee the need of all the above-mentioned and that is why I 
requested that we work together as a team contributing a little in 
every way to make the proposal a success!


> Therefore, if u present a united, organised and well thought out plan, 
u get the
> $$$. If u turn up to be a bunch of free-wheeling amatuers, hackers, 
crackers,
> warez kings etc, they avoid u like the plague. .Trust me, I work in a 
big MNC on
> the other side of the table b4. Basically, we acted like a bunch of 
stingy
> bastards and scrutinised anything like crazy. Hopefully, cyberway and 
compaq etc
> grant us the equipment/bandwidth. But if we had something in the 
proposal to show
> commitment, organisation and decidication, then it would make a 
stronger case.


This is not wrong either. Refer to my above reply.


> yes yes...it is bureacratic, stifling, no creativity, as irritating as 
writing
> your documentation, so government like......so agst the nature of 
'hackers'. But
> I just feel that working with The System is better than jumping up and 
down in
> your corner and be ignored by everyone. Just my 2 cents.


Bureacratic? No! We are dealing with businessmen here! We want their 
$$$ and they want to know how much dollar value that will add to their 
investment. Try making $1 to $2 without any ideas, proposals or plans 
and I can tell you that the $1 you have will be $0.10 in a matter of 
seconds if not hours.

So, what's next?

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Moonshi Mohsenruddin    icq:2595480             [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Editor, Singapore Linux Portal  http://www.linux.com.sg 
Asia/Singapore


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