OK, so maybe I'm stating the bleeding obvious here, but here's a suggestion for keeping this list at least mostly on-topic. DON'T REPLY TO OFF-TOPIC POSTS!! Don't reply in public Don't reply in private Don't flame in public Don't flame in private Just don't reply at all!! Eventually (or most likely quite quickly) people will begin to get the idea. The problem we have at the moment is that the SLUG list contains a wide cross-section of the IT industry. That means that when you ask a NT question, odds are that someone will reply with the answer in short order. Once that happens to you once (or once you see it happen for someone else), then next time you've got a question, why not post it to the list that got results last time? The same goes for SPAM. SLUG (and other lists, but SLUG seems the worst of the ones I'm on) seem to get about 10 replies for each spam msg sent to the list (even the ones in Japanese!). So instead of having to delete just one messages, people have to put up with an entire thread on it. So I call on everyone, IGNORE the OT's, IGNORE the SPAM's, and lets keep the list on-topic (where it actually seems to have been for the past few weeks!) Scott. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug